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A Jot or a Tittle יוד

David Koberstein

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I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished. Matthew 5:18

If you grew up reading the King James Version of the Bible, you would have read the passage a above with the words "one jot or one tittle." Perhaps you learned that this was some type of punctuation mark above with the words "one jot or one tittle." Perhaps you learned that this was some type of punctuation mark equivalent to our English apostrophe. The "jot" that Jesus was referring to was the Hebrew letter yod.
It is the smallest letter in the Hebrew alphabet. Just half a line long.
The Yod is often written with a small line at the top - like a little capital "L" rotated 180 deg. What we translate as "tittle" or "stroke of a pen" is just the small curve at the top of the letter the slight embellishment on the yod. It was called the thorn of the yod.
So what Jesus was saying was, "Not the smallest letter or even a decoration on the smallest letter will disappear."
This is actually a well-known Hebrew expression, "lo yod v'lo kotso shel yod." "It means not a yod or a thorn of a yod," or "not the most insignificant or unimportant thing."

A story was told by another rabbi after Jesus' time that appears to illustrate what this means:
When God gave the Torah, he said. "the king moreover must not acquire great numbers of horses for himself... He must not take many wives, or his heart will be lead astray. He must not accumulate large amounts of silver and gold" (Deuteronomy 17:16-17). But instead, King Solomon had many wives and horses, and much gold.
When that happened, the letter yod ascended to God's throne and humbly said to the Lord, "Didn't you say that no letter should ever be abolished from the Torah? Today Solomon has abolished the word "not" from this law, and perhaps tomorrow he will abolish the whole thing! God responded, "Solomon and a thousand like him will pass away, but the smallest tittle will not be canceled from you."

This parable gives us some insight into Jesus' words. Solomon was living as if Deuteronomy 17 didn't have the word "not" in it., and as if God had commanded the opposite --- that the king should acquire many wives and as much wealth as possible! But no matter as much Solomon ignored the law. God's commands could not be canceled. Many people in our world today believe that we can live our lives as if God doesn't exist and that the rules are ours to make. But this lesson tells us that the final standard by which we must live is God's Word, not our own.

Shalom Rav שלום רב
 
יוד
I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished. Matthew 5:18

If you grew up reading the King James Version of the Bible, you would have read the passage a above with the words "one jot or one tittle." Perhaps you learned that this was some type of punctuation mark above with the words "one jot or one tittle." Perhaps you learned that this was some type of punctuation mark equivalent to our English apostrophe. The "jot" that Jesus was referring to was the Hebrew letter yod.
It is the smallest letter in the Hebrew alphabet. Just half a line long.
The Yod is often written with a small line at the top - like a little capital "L" rotated 180 deg. What we translate as "tittle" or "stroke of a pen" is just the small curve at the top of the letter the slight embellishment on the yod. It was called the thorn of the yod.
So what Jesus was saying was, "Not the smallest letter or even a decoration on the smallest letter will disappear."
This is actually a well-known Hebrew expression, "lo yod v'lo kotso shel yod." "It means not a yod or a thorn of a yod," or "not the most insignificant or unimportant thing."

A story was told by another rabbi after Jesus' time that appears to illustrate what this means:
When God gave the Torah, he said. "the king moreover must not acquire great numbers of horses for himself... He must not take many wives, or his heart will be lead astray. He must not accumulate large amounts of silver and gold" (Deuteronomy 17:16-17). But instead, King Solomon had many wives and horses, and much gold.
When that happened, the letter yod ascended to God's throne and humbly said to the Lord, "Didn't you say that no letter should ever be abolished from the Torah? Today Solomon has abolished the word "not" from this law, and perhaps tomorrow he will abolish the whole thing! God responded, "Solomon and a thousand like him will pass away, but the smallest tittle will not be canceled from you."

This parable gives us some insight into Jesus' words. Solomon was living as if Deuteronomy 17 didn't have the word "not" in it., and as if God had commanded the opposite --- that the king should acquire many wives and as much wealth as possible! But no matter as much Solomon ignored the law. God's commands could not be canceled. Many people in our world today believe that we can live our lives as if God doesn't exist and that the rules are ours to make. But this lesson tells us that the final standard by which we must live is God's Word, not our own.

Shalom Rav שלום רב
Thank you David,

I continue to learn from you and this is good.

We all need to learn from one another.

But you bring up an interesting thought to me when I recall what Jesus said in Matt 5:18

KJV of course says For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

and the

NASB95 says it this way. “For truly I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest letter or stroke shall pass from the Law until all is accomplished.

This suggests that following God's commandments and understanding their fulfillment in Christ is relevant to salvation and good works

Meaning that works are needed, not just faith, for if we do not follow the law/commandments we are disobeying Jesus?

I , admittedly have always been a faith only person, but????????
 
This suggests that following God's commandments and understanding their fulfillment in Christ is relevant to salvation and good works

Meaning that works are needed, not just faith, for if we do not follow the law/commandments we are disobeying Jesus?
Not sure what you intended...are you saying our works play a part in gaining salvation or that it is our salvation that produces works.....or....if we don't have works we probably don't have salvation?
 
Thank you David,

I continue to learn from you and this is good.

We all need to learn from one another.

But you bring up an interesting thought to me when I recall what Jesus said in Matt 5:18

KJV of course says For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

and the

NASB95 says it this way. “For truly I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest letter or stroke shall pass from the Law until all is accomplished.

This suggests that following God's commandments and understanding their fulfillment in Christ is relevant to salvation and good works

Meaning that works are needed, not just faith, for if we do not follow the law/commandments we are disobeying Jesus?

I , admittedly have always been a faith only person, but????????
I let my good works validate my faith and trust in Yeshua. If we have genuine faith in Yeshua it will be reflected in the
good works we do or blessings that we are supposed to be to other people and the nations.
I will be in Pa next month to bury my late mother's ashes. It will be an emotional event.

Shalom Aleichem
 
Not sure what you intended...are you saying our works play a part in gaining salvation or that it is our salvation that produces works.....or....if we don't have works we probably don't have salvation?
No... not at all.

I believe Faith without works.

James preached in

James 2:17 Even so faith, if it has no works, is dead, being by itself.

Paul preached in

Romans 3:28 For we maintain that a man is justified by faith apart from works of the Law.

Galatians 2:16 nevertheless, knowing that a person is not justified by works of the Law but through faith in Christ Jesus, even we have believed in Christ Jesus, so that we may be justified by faith in Christ and not by works of the Law; since by works of the Law no flesh will be justified.

Eph 2: 8-9 For by grace you have been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God;
9 not as a result of works, so that no one may boast.

But enter Jesus who tells us “For truly I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest letter or stroke shall pass from the Law until all is accomplished.

Therefore since we still are here, so is the law.

Is not the law works?

So I am just wondering about this sensitive subject as I do believe Jesus trumps both Paul and James.
 
I let my good works validate my faith and trust in Yeshua. If we have genuine faith in Yeshua it will be reflected in the
good works we do or blessings that we are supposed to be to other people and the nations.
I will be in Pa next month to bury my late mother's ashes. It will be an emotional event.

Shalom Aleichem
I'm sorry.

Prayer for you and yours in this sad time.
 
But enter Jesus who tells us “For truly I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest letter or stroke shall pass from the Law until all is accomplished.

Therefore since we still are here, so is the law.

Is not the law works?
That would fall under the category of how one is defining the law. If it is considered the Mosaic Law with its covenant legal code, then no, it has become obsolete as covenant law (Hebrews 8:13).

Jesus said he came not to destroy the law but to fulfill it. He fulfilled it in perfect righteousness both to the letter and the spirit of the law.

What is still in effect, and applies to the believer and the unbeliever, is the moral law (Ten Commandments), and it was in effect even within the Mosaic Law. That is why it never saved anyone unto eternal life, nor was it intended to. Only genuine faith did, just as now. The Old Covenant law was pointing to Christ and was a progression in redemptive history to his advent and work (perfect righteousness and the cross) of Christ.

No believer keeps even the first commandment perfectly, let alone all the others in the Ten Commandments. (The first four are pertaining to our relationship towards God, the rest dealing with our relationship in society, with the creation, and with one another. But because he has been born again into Christ and has the imputed righteousness of Christ; and because he has the indwelling of the Holy Spirit by which he is being more and more conformed to the image of Christ's righteousness (sanctification) he now hates the sin that he previously loved, and is convicted of sin and led to repentance.

The keeping of the moral law, now becomes, not works for salvation, but loving submission to the Father, and the fruit produced by the Holy Spirit in the person (through the word and gaining knowledge of it). He will bear fruit. Sometimes ten fold, sometimes 20 fold, and ultimately at glorification when Christ returns and we are changed, a 100 fold.
So I am just wondering about this sensitive subject as I do believe Jesus trumps both Paul and James.
Paul and all the apostles were given authority by Jesus himself to fully represent him, and only him. That was the whole point of the miracles they performed, just as they were with Jesus.To authenticate that what they taught was from God, and fully trustworthy.
 
That would fall under the category of how one is defining the law. If it is considered the Mosaic Law with its covenant legal code, then no, it has become obsolete as covenant law (Hebrews 8:13).

Jesus said he came not to destroy the law but to fulfill it. He fulfilled it in perfect righteousness both to the letter and the spirit of the law.

What is still in effect, and applies to the believer and the unbeliever, is the moral law (Ten Commandments), and it was in effect even within the Mosaic Law. That is why it never saved anyone unto eternal life, nor was it intended to. Only genuine faith did, just as now. The Old Covenant law was pointing to Christ and was a progression in redemptive history to his advent and work (perfect righteousness and the cross) of Christ.

No believer keeps even the first commandment perfectly, let alone all the others in the Ten Commandments. (The first four are pertaining to our relationship towards God, the rest dealing with our relationship in society, with the creation, and with one another. But because he has been born again into Christ and has the imputed righteousness of Christ; and because he has the indwelling of the Holy Spirit by which he is being more and more conformed to the image of Christ's righteousness (sanctification) he now hates the sin that he previously loved, and is convicted of sin and led to repentance.

The keeping of the moral law, now becomes, not works for salvation, but loving submission to the Father, and the fruit produced by the Holy Spirit in the person (through the word and gaining knowledge of it). He will bear fruit. Sometimes ten fold, sometimes 20 fold, and ultimately at glorification when Christ returns and we are changed, a 100 fold.

Paul and all the apostles were given authority by Jesus himself to fully represent him, and only him. That was the whole point of the miracles they performed, just as they were with Jesus.To authenticate that what they taught was from God, and fully trustworthy.
Yes, I understand... but then I keep seeing

until heaven and earth pass away,
 
Yes, I understand... but then I keep seeing

until heaven and earth pass away,
From the lesson of the fig tree in Matt 24? If so, I guess I don't understand what you exactly are wrestling with, in relation to the law and not one jot or tittle being removed from it.
 
יוד
I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished. Matthew 5:18
Since Jesus perfectly fulfilled the Torah/Law (in word, deed, and action) in the believer's stead...mission accomplished. Or maybe I am missing something?
 
Since Jesus perfectly fulfilled the Torah/Law (in word, deed, and action) in the believer's stead...mission accomplished. Or maybe I am missing something?
So we have been told.

But then where does Matt 5:18 “For truly I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest letter or stroke shall pass from the Law until all is accomplished.

Am I misreading this?
 
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