1000 years of Revelation 20.

[Arial]

I do not see

Him as being bound yet, as he is still being allowed to deceive many thru various cults and isms, and to stir up wars

Does Rev 20 say that he is bound from deceiving many through cults and isms, and to stir up wars?

 

[Marty]

I do not see

Him as being bound yet, as he is still being allowed to deceive many thru various cults and isms, and to stir up wars

It matters on what the binding actually is or what exactly the great chain is

 

[prism]

The Jews were God's chosen people, and Christ would be from the Jews.

Were? I suppose their lineage was also figurative?

 

[Josheb]

The Woman is Israel though, and Satan being bound refers to the totality of his outreach, so no more wars, no more cults and false religions, all worshipping Jesus as Lord, not happening until messianic Age arrives here on earth

Revelation 22:18
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[Josheb]

I believe that we could be in the time of satans release now....

What if we're not?

 

[Marty]

What if we're not?

Then we’re not I,m just saying that I think so

 

[Josheb]

Then we’re not I,m just saying that I think so

How does that belief influence your life and the way it's lived from day to day?

If you learned we are definitely not "in the time of Satan's release," what effect would that knowledge, that fact, have regarding how life is lived from that point onward?





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[Marty]

How does that belief influence your life and the way it's lived from day to day?

If you learned we are definitely not "in the time of Satan's release," what effect would that knowledge, that fact, have regarding how life is lived from that point onward?





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I just wouldn’t expect the end of our world could happen any day but that wouldn’t effect how I live my life

 

[Josheb]

I just wouldn’t expect the end of our world could happen any day but that wouldn’t effect how I live my life

Okay. When do you expect the world to end if we living in the time of Satan's release? I'm a little curious about Post 28. You believe this is the time of Satan's release but since the world is not going to end living in the time of his release has no effect on how you live?

Do I have that correctly understood? If not, then please clarify?

 

[Marty]

Okay. When do you expect the world to end if we living in the time of Satan's release? I'm a little curious about Post 28. You believe this is the time of Satan's release but since the world is not going to end living in the time of his release has no effect on how you live?

Do I have that correctly understood? If not, then please clarify?

I didn’t say that i believe we are living in the time of satans release I said that i believe that it could be the time of satans release.

If so the world could end at any time and I can’t do anything about that but live the best that I can and share Christ when I have an opportunity.

The reason I believe that we could be in that time is because of what happened in Noah’s days. God didn’t destroy the world with the flood because it was so evil it always has been and always will be too evil God destroyed it because the faithful line of Seth conformed to the ways of the unfaithful line of Cain and it came down to just one man Noah and it would of ended with the death of Noah.

In the same way much of the church is conforming to the ways of the world today and I believe that the Holy Spirit within the church holds satan back.

 

[Josheb]

I didn’t say that i believe we are living in the time of satans release I said that i believe that it could be the time of satans release.

That is hair splitting.

You said we could be and I asked what if we're not? You have not actually answered my question. I have clarified the inquiry so that it specifically asks about how your belief affects your life, the way you live your life as a Christian. Non-Christians do not concern themselves with whether or not Satan could be released.

If so the world could end at any time and I can’t do anything about that but live the best that I can and share Christ when I have an opportunity.

I did not ask about the world. I asked about you and the way your belief influences your living the Christian life.

If we are living in the time of Satan's release, then how are you living your life specifically relevant to that belief?

Or is the belief inconsequential to how you live your life?

 

[Josheb]

The reason I believe that we could be in that time is because of what happened in Noah’s days. God didn’t destroy the world with the flood because it was so evil it always has been and always will be too evil God destroyed it because the faithful line of Seth conformed to the ways of the unfaithful line of Cain and it came down to just one man Noah and it would of ended with the death of Noah.

In the same way much of the church is conforming to the ways of the world today and I believe that the Holy Spirit within the church holds satan back.

I think you have a mistaken understanding of what happened in Noah's days. As soon as I get some answers to the questions regarding how your belief, we could be living in the time of Satan's release I will address the matter of what happened in Noah's days.


How has the belief we could be living in the time of Satan's release affected the way you live your life? It's a valid question. Take a few minutes and think about the question and your answer to that question.

How has the belief we could be living in the time of Satan's release affected the way you live your life?



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[Marty]

That is hair splitting.

You said we could be and I asked what if we're not? You have not actually answered my question. I have clarified the inquiry so that it specifically asks about how your belief affects your life, the way you live your life as a Christian. Non-Christians do not concern themselves with whether or not Satan could be released.

I did not ask about the world. I asked about you and the way your belief influences your living the Christian life.

If we are living in the time of Satan's release, then how are you living your life specifically relevant to that belief?

Or is the belief inconsequential to how you live your life?

I answered that way because you said that I said that we are living in the time of satans release and I didn’t so I was clarifying that you miss quoted me which you did. So you are focusing on that I didn’t actually answer your question and ignoring that fact that you said that I said something when I didn’t so I have the right to correct you. That’s not hair splitting.


I also did answer your question, I said that I live the best life that I can and share Christ when I have an opportunity.

I try to live my life as if I could die any day and that the world could end at any time but like everyone I’m not perfect and mess up at times and trust in Gods grace and mercy.

To your other question about what if we’re not living in the time of satans release that good more time for more people to be saved.

 

[Marty]

I think you have a mistaken understanding of what happened in Noah's days. As soon as I get some answers to the questions regarding how your belief, we could be living in the time of Satan's release I will address the matter of what happened in Noah's days.


How has the belief we could be living in the time of Satan's release affected the way you live your life? It's a valid question. Take a few minutes and think about the question and your answer to that question.

How has the belief we could be living in the time of Satan's release affected the way you live your life?



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I believe to understand when and why God will end our world we have to look back at the bible and see when and why God nearly destroyed the world in the past

There’s a lot to learn about understanding the end times in Genesis chapters 4-6

 

[Reformedguy]

Represents to me the Messianic Age yet to come on this Earth

I understand. I, as a Orthodox Preterist, do not share that view however.

 

[Josheb]

I answered that way because you said that I said that we are living in the time of satans release and I didn’t so I was clarifying that you miss quoted me which you did. So you are focusing on that I didn’t actually answer your question and ignoring that fact that you said that I said something when I didn’t so I have the right to correct you. That’s not hair splitting.


I also did answer your question, I said that I live the best life that I can and share Christ when I have an opportunity.

I try to live my life as if I could die any day and that the world could end at any time but like everyone I’m not perfect and mess up at times and trust in Gods grace and mercy.

To your other question about what if we’re not living in the time of satans release that good more time for more people to be saved.

The question about how you live your life relevant to your belief still has not been answered.

I believe to understand when and why God will end our world we have to look back at the bible and see when and why God nearly destroyed the world in the past

There’s a lot to learn about understanding the end times in Genesis chapters 4-6

That is not an answer to the question asked, either.


How has the belief we could be living in the time of Satan's release affected the way you live your life?


And please tell me: to which eschatological point of view do you subscribe (Historic Premil, Amil, Postmil, Dispensationalist Premil, Idealist)?

 

[Marty]

The question about how you live your life relevant to your belief still has not been answered.

That is not an answer to the question asked, either.


How has the belief we could be living in the time of Satan's release affected the way you live your life?


And please tell me: to which eschatological point of view do you subscribe (Historic Premil, Amil, Postmil, Dispensationalist Premil, Idealist)?

Why are you speaking to me like your a class teacher and I'm a student?

You are acting rude, arrogant and hypercritical telling me that I haven't answered your questions, and you won't even acknowledge that you stated that I said something and I didn't.

That's not a good way to debate or even get someone into dialog with you. I did answer your questions more than once if that's not good enough for you than that's your issue not mine.

Mod edit. A strike through was put through the rule violating words. No warning points issued, just a reminder. Sometimes it is difficult to read a poster's "tone". He likely means no harm it is just his way. Best to answer the question or ask why it is important or ask to have it clarified or carry on the conversation with other members. Thank you and keep on posting. Good to have you active here.

 

[JesusFan]

I understand. I, as a Orthodox Preterist, do not share that view however.

Do you mean a full blown one, denying the future Second Event?

 

[JesusFan]

It matters on what the binding actually is or what exactly the great chain is

I tend to see the OT prophets Messianic Age of a paradise restored on earth with the King Messiah ruling

 

[JesusFan]

Does Rev 20 say that he is bound from deceiving many through cults and isms, and to stir up wars?

It seems to be speaking of a time when he influence has been totally nullified