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1000 years of Revelation 20.

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1 Then I saw an angel coming down from heaven, holding the key of the abyss and a great chain in his hand. 2 ;And he took hold of the dragon, the serpent of old, who is the devil and Satan, and bound him for a thousand years; 3 ;and he threw him into the abyss and shut it and sealed it over him, so that he would not deceive the nations any longer, until the thousand years were completed; after these things he must be released for a short time.



Is this a figurative or literal 1000 years?

Scripture, reasoning, proof?
 
1 Then I saw an angel coming down from heaven, holding the key of the abyss and a great chain in his hand. 2 ;And he took hold of the dragon, the serpent of old, who is the devil and Satan, and bound him for a thousand years; 3 ;and he threw him into the abyss and shut it and sealed it over him, so that he would not deceive the nations any longer, until the thousand years were completed; after these things he must be released for a short time.



Is this a figurative or literal 1000 years?

Scripture, reasoning, proof?
Literal, as it starts at His Second Coming event itself
 
1 Then I saw an angel coming down from heaven, holding the key of the abyss and a great chain in his hand. 2 ;And he took hold of the dragon, the serpent of old, who is the devil and Satan, and bound him for a thousand years; 3 ;and he threw him into the abyss and shut it and sealed it over him, so that he would not deceive the nations any longer, until the thousand years were completed; after these things he must be released for a short time.



Is this a figurative or literal 1000 years?

Scripture, reasoning, proof?
I say figurative. The reasons I say figurative are many.

First, prophecy in scripture as a genre is generally figurative, laden with symbols and allegorical meaning (even when it can also be taken literally). Next, the literal reading runs into conflict with the infinite nature of divine might and sovereignty. Simply put, there is never a place nor a time when God is not God and almightily sovereignly ruling and reigning over all creation. He is God. The Creator created creation. To suggest there is any kind of limitation to that mightily sovereign rule is to contradict the definition of God. It does not matter whether the reign is limited to a thousand days, a thousand years, a thousand centuries, or a thousand millennia. God is ALWAYS reigning. After that we have the fact Satan was elsewhere said to have been bound in multiple ways at multiple times. To the degree the thousand-year reign of Christ is correlated to a binding of Satan, scripture provides multiple reports that has already happened. Furthermore, the correlation of Christ's millennial reign and Satan's specific binding (the binding in Rev. 20 is very specific) is a correlation between the aforementioned Creator and a created creature. There is never a single moment anywhere in all of creation where the Creator is not reigning over the creature - all creatures. The dichotomy between Creator and creature is categorical, categorically different. There is not and cannot be any comparison. In addition, all the mentions of time in scripture occur within the fact the Creator is extra-temporal. He exists external to creation and is not in any way shape or form bound by the limitations of time experience here on earth (nor those existing in the heavens, either). This is simply another avenue back to the fact God (Father and Son) is always and everywhere reigning. Notice the text of Revelation 20 never explicitly states Jesus has left heaven and come to the earth physically. That interpretation is entirely inferential. Nowhere in the preceding chapter is it ever reported Jesus is physically leaving heaven and physically coming to earth. How then can he rule on earth for a literal thousand years if he is not physically on the earth? In point of fact, the book of Revelation repeatedly states Jesus is enthroned in heaven and the events that occur in the heavens and on the earth are commanded from heaven. Jesus is never explicitly reported to have left heaven and explicitly report to come to earth in the entire book of Revelation until chapter 21. Not even when he is writing the white horse does scripture actually state he leaves heaven. Lastly, for now, if the text is to be read literally then it must be read literally consistently. That means verses like Rev. 20:4 should be read literally and that would mean headless people reign with Jesus. There will also have to be countries literally called Gog and Magog because those countries ceased to exist long, long ago. The logical necessity being that if Israel is literally returning to the geography of earth, then so to must the return of Gog and Magog. It is inconsistent to say, this portion of this sentence is literal, but that portion of that sentence is figurative.

The mention of a "thousand years" is, therefore, simply a figure of speech intended to communicate Jesus reigns over everything; always has and always will. The creature called Satan is and has always been a minion.


Now, if you're amenable, I have a question I'd like to add to the thread because it can/should inform both the question asked in the op and its answer.

Revelation 1:17-19
When I saw Him, I fell at His feet like a dead man. And He placed His right hand on me, saying, “Do not be afraid; I am the first and the last, and the living One; and I was dead, and behold, I am alive forevermore, and I have the keys of death and of Hades. Therefore, write the things which you have seen, and the things which are, and the things which will take place after these things.

John was directed to write down things he'd seen (the vision of Revelation had not yet been given when he was told to do that so the "things which you have seen" cannot refer to the vision's contents. They must refer to events or conditions John had seen prior to the giving of the vision. John was also told to write down "the things which are." These are things that existed at the time the vision of Revelation was provided, not events or conditions that were going to occur in the future. These were things that are, not things that will be. The things that would occur in John's future is the third part of what he is directed to write down, the "things that will take place after these things." The things that will take place after what John has already previously seen prior to the giving of the vision and things that existed at the time the vision was given.

Therefore, without being to exacting, roughly a third of Revelation had already happened. A third of the vision's contents and the things John was directed to write down were events and conditions he'd already seen. Roughly a third of Revelation describes "things that are," or events that were happening or conditions that existed at the time the vision was given. And, therefore, only a rough third of Revelation describes events that would come after these things. [Only] A third of Revelation is about John's future if Revelation 1:19 is read literally. If the verse (Rev. 1:19) previously asserted by Jesus himself is not correctly applied to everything that comes afterwards then frequent mistakes are likely.

The question is this:

Into which of the three categories (John's past, John's present, or John's future) does Revelation 20:1-3 fall into? Are we to read Rev. 20:1-3 as something John had already seen, something that existed at the time Revelation was revealed, or something that would come after what John had seen and what was when the revelation was given? :unsure:
Is this a figurative or literal 1000 years?
Well, if Revelation 1:19 is taken literally then it's critically important to know whether Rev. 20:1-3 was something that fell into the things John had seen, the things that were, or the things that would come after those things.

  • Does scripture elsewhere report Satan's binding as a past or current event/condition?

My answer to that question is "Yes." The angel tradition says is Satan was reported to have been stripped of all his glory and cast down in Isaiah. Jesus himself reported he saw Satan fall when his disciples preached the gospel. Jude uses past-tense language when it explicitly states angels who did not keep their proper abode have been held in bonds of eternal darkness. Jesus explicitly stated all his power and authority was given to the disciples for the purposes of making disciples of all the nations, teaching them his commands and Paul reported the gospel had been reported throughout all creation. References provided upon request.
 
1 Then I saw an angel coming down from heaven, holding the key of the abyss and a great chain in his hand. 2 ;And he took hold of the dragon, the serpent of old, who is the devil and Satan, and bound him for a thousand years; 3 ;and he threw him into the abyss and shut it and sealed it over him, so that he would not deceive the nations any longer, until the thousand years were completed; after these things he must be released for a short time.



Is this a figurative or literal 1000 years?

Scripture, reasoning, proof?
I'll repeat what @Josheb said because I agree. I say figurative. The reasons I say figurative are many.

I'll start with the text itself.

I cannot see a physical key to a pit in the ground. I doubt this pit/prison is a literal hole in the ground. Or an angel binding Satan with a literal physical chain. It's obvious the chain would just fall to the ground; it wouldn't hold Satan, a spiritual being.

I think it makes sense that the key, the pit, and the chain are symbolic representations. But the 1000-year prison sentence must be taken literally? No, I dont think so.
 
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1 Then I saw an angel coming down from heaven, holding the key of the abyss and a great chain in his hand. 2 ;And he took hold of the dragon, the serpent of old, who is the devil and Satan, and bound him for a thousand years; 3 ;and he threw him into the abyss and shut it and sealed it over him, so that he would not deceive the nations any longer, until the thousand years were completed; after these things he must be released for a short time.



Is this a figurative or literal 1000 years?

Scripture, reasoning, proof?
It’s symbolic of the church age as Jesus bound the strong man and set the captives free
 
I'm repeat what @Josheb said because I agree. I say figurative. The reasons I say figurative are many.

I'll start with the text itself.

I cannot see a physical key to a pit in the ground. I doubt this pit/prison is a literal hole in the ground. Or an angel binding Satan with a literal physical chain. It's obvious the chain would just fall to the ground; it wouldn't hold Satan, a spiritual being.

I think it makes sense that the key, the pit, and the chain are symbolic representations. But the 1000-year prison sentence must be taken literally? No, I dont think so.
1000 seems to be a figurative number in scripture. He owns the cattle on a thousand hills. So anything over 1000 He does not own?
 
I'm repeat what @Josheb said because I agree. I say figurative. The reasons I say figurative are many.

I'll start with the text itself.

I cannot see a physical key to a pit in the ground. I doubt this pit/prison is a literal hole in the ground. Or an angel binding Satan with a literal physical chain. It's obvious the chain would just fall to the ground; it wouldn't hold Satan, a spiritual being.
Exactly. What kind of a chain would hold a spirit? Certainly not a physically earthly one. In point of fact, the word "abyss" carries the connotation of an endless void or chasm and nothing in creation is endless. Creation is finite. In Greek, the word "bussos" was used to refer to anything boundless and unfathomable.
I think it makes sense that the key, the pit, and the chain are symbolic representations. But the 1000-year prison sentence must be taken literally? No, I dont think so.
Yep. The inconsistency is dartboard eisegesis. Ignore the literal reading of Rev. 1:1, 1:3, and 1:19 and throw a handful of darts at the Rev. 20. The red darts indicate the verses to be read literally, and the blue darts indicate verses to be read figuratively.
1000 seems to be a figurative number in scripture. He owns the cattle on a thousand hills. So anything over 1000 He does not own?
I used to think that way, too, but (self-purported) Hebrew scholar once explained to me that the Hebrew of Proverbs 50:10 means "cattles of cattle," and not the fixed and finite number, 1000. The letter aleph indicates the numeral "1" and, when written, the letter is the head of an ox. Both aleph and eleph share the same root (etymologically speaking, not just the numeral "1" in "1,000"). In other words, when written, the word literally (pun not intended) contains the symbol for cattle, the ox. This is the idiom within Proverbs 50:10's many cattle that is lost in the very blunt English. The verse still works as a precedent for understanding Revelation 20:2's "chilia," but the precedent is much richer. God owns the cattle on all the hills. He created both the hills and the cattle. Likewise, God commands and is sovereign over all the years. There is no year 1001, 1002, etc. when and where He and He alone is not sovereign and the adversary is free to assert any power of his own. God made the years and He made the creature Satan. The only liberty and power the creature has is that which his Creator gives him.

Besides, the text stipulates a specific binding. He is bound specifically "so that he would not deceive the nations any longer." The literalist reads that verse to say there was/is a beginning to a specified time period in which Satan cannot deceive the nations and there will be a n end to that limitation. Satan will, in the future, be set loose specifically for the purpose of deceiving the nations. The exegetical alternative occurs in the overarching and inescapable context of God's might and sovereignty. God is Creator and Satan is creature. There has never existed a day when Satan was not already limited by that condition. Furthermore, Satan has disobeyed God and thereby fallen prey to the wages of sin (death). His thinking is futile and his heart is darkened and God has given him over to his lusts. There has never been a day when he was free. He has been a liar and murderer from the beginning. Any and all notion that there is a specific, fixed period of time in which Satan will afterwards be able to deceive the nations run into forceful conflict with the Great Commission.

Matthew 28:18-20
And Jesus came up and spoke to them, saying, “All authority has been given to Me in heaven and on earth. Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all that I commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, even to the end of the age.”

A literal reading of rev. 20's "chilia," would mean there is an end to the Great Commission and that end is predicated on the release of an adversary, not the success of the almighty power of God (or His gospel). That is a mucked-up theology.

The thousand years of Revelation 20 is figurative.
 
I'm repeat what @Josheb said because I agree. I say figurative. The reasons I say figurative are many.

I'll start with the text itself.

I cannot see a physical key to a pit in the ground. I doubt this pit/prison is a literal hole in the ground. Or an angel binding Satan with a literal physical chain. It's obvious the chain would just fall to the ground; it wouldn't hold Satan, a spiritual being.

I think it makes sense that the key, the pit, and the chain are symbolic representations. But the 1000-year prison sentence must be taken literally? No, I dont think so.
I would see it as describing Satan being bound in the sense of Him not be able to freely roam and work against people during the Millennium, but he is not bound right now
 
Exactly. What kind of a chain would hold a spirit? Certainly not a physically earthly one. In point of fact, the word "abyss" carries the connotation of an endless void or chasm and nothing in creation is endless. Creation is finite. In Greek, the word "bussos" was used to refer to anything boundless and unfathomable.

Yep. The inconsistency is dartboard eisegesis. Ignore the literal reading of Rev. 1:1, 1:3, and 1:19 and throw a handful of darts at the Rev. 20. The red darts indicate the verses to be read literally, and the blue darts indicate verses to be read figuratively.

I used to think that way, too, but (self-purported) Hebrew scholar once explained to me that the Hebrew of Proverbs 50:10 means "cattles of cattle," and not the fixed and finite number, 1000. The letter aleph indicates the numeral "1" and, when written, the letter is the head of an ox. Both aleph and eleph share the same root (etymologically speaking, not just the numeral "1" in "1,000"). In other words, when written, the word literally (pun not intended) contains the symbol for cattle, the ox. This is the idiom within Proverbs 50:10's many cattle that is lost in the very blunt English. The verse still works as a precedent for understanding Revelation 20:2's "chilia," but the precedent is much richer. God owns the cattle on all the hills. He created both the hills and the cattle. Likewise, God commands and is sovereign over all the years. There is no year 1001, 1002, etc. when and where He and He alone is not sovereign and the adversary is free to assert any power of his own. God made the years and He made the creature Satan. The only liberty and power the creature has is that which his Creator gives him.

Besides, the text stipulates a specific binding. He is bound specifically "so that he would not deceive the nations any longer." The literalist reads that verse to say there was/is a beginning to a specified time period in which Satan cannot deceive the nations and there will be a n end to that limitation. Satan will, in the future, be set loose specifically for the purpose of deceiving the nations. The exegetical alternative occurs in the overarching and inescapable context of God's might and sovereignty. God is Creator and Satan is creature. There has never existed a day when Satan was not already limited by that condition. Furthermore, Satan has disobeyed God and thereby fallen prey to the wages of sin (death). His thinking is futile and his heart is darkened and God has given him over to his lusts. There has never been a day when he was free. He has been a liar and murderer from the beginning. Any and all notion that there is a specific, fixed period of time in which Satan will afterwards be able to deceive the nations run into forceful conflict with the Great Commission.

Matthew 28:18-20
And Jesus came up and spoke to them, saying, “All authority has been given to Me in heaven and on earth. Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all that I commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, even to the end of the age.”

A literal reading of rev. 20's "chilia," would mean there is an end to the Great Commission and that end is predicated on the release of an adversary, not the success of the almighty power of God (or His gospel). That is a mucked-up theology.

The thousand years of Revelation 20 is figurative.
We are not yet in that messianic Age, as need to King to be here on earth to make that Kingdom of His come in its fulness
 
I would see it as describing Satan being bound in the sense of Him not be able to freely roam and work against people during the Millennium, but he is not bound right now
The Jews were God's chosen people, and Christ would be from the Jews. Satan was bound by the cross; the strong man has been bound, and no longer just the Jews but Gentiles as well. Satan has been bound, and his kingdom has been plundered, we believers have been plundered from his kingdom.

He is still roaming, scripture says he roams like a roaring lion. Before the cross, all the nations, with the exception of the Jews, were under the thraldom of Satan. But now his leash has been shortened. By Satan being bound, he can no longer deceive the "nations." Salvation goes to every tribe, tongue, and nation.

As far as during the Millennium? I believe the Melinnium is present. But it is in heaven with Christ and believers. So he does roam now, but surely not in heaven.
 
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I would see it as describing Satan being bound in the sense of Him not be able to freely roam and work against people during the Millennium, but he is not bound right now
Scripture teaches that he is bound, so he can no longer deceive the nations. Up unto the cross, as I said, with the exception of the Jews, all the nations were under the thraldom of Satan. But of course not in the absolute sense, as God reigns supreme.

Afterall The father gave the Son the nations. ‘Ask it of Me, and I will certainly give the nations as Your inheritance, And the ends of the earth as Your possession. Psalm 2:8.
 
Consider these three for a moment. Especially the bold.

Then I saw an angel coming down from heaven, holding the key of the abyss and a great chain in his hand. And he took hold of the dragon, the serpent of old, who is the devil and Satan, and bound him for a thousand years; and he threw him into the abyss and shut it and sealed it over him, so that he would not deceive the nations any longer, until the thousand years were completed; after these things he must be released for a short time. Rev 20.

‘Ask it of Me, and I will certainly give the nations as Your inheritance, And the ends of the earth as Your possession. Psalm 2:8.

Jesus responded and said, “This voice has not come for My sake, but for yours. Now judgment is upon this world; now the ruler of this world will be cast out. And I, if I am lifted up from the earth, will draw all people to Myself.” John 12.

Because of Christ's crucifixion and the sending of the Holy Spirit, all Gentiles as well as Jews shall be drawn to Christ.
And Rev 12 shows the casting out of Satan was the result of Christ's coronation.

@ the cross, "When He had disarmed the rulers and authorities, He made a public display of them, having triumphed over them through Him. Col 2:5.

And she gave birth to a Son, a male, who is going to rule all the nations with a rod of iron; and her Child was caught up to God and to His throne. Rev 12:15.
 
Consider these three for a moment. Especially the bold.

Then I saw an angel coming down from heaven, holding the key of the abyss and a great chain in his hand. And he took hold of the dragon, the serpent of old, who is the devil and Satan, and bound him for a thousand years; and he threw him into the abyss and shut it and sealed it over him, so that he would not deceive the nations any longer, until the thousand years were completed; after these things he must be released for a short time. Rev 20.

‘Ask it of Me, and I will certainly give the nations as Your inheritance, And the ends of the earth as Your possession. Psalm 2:8.

Jesus responded and said, “This voice has not come for My sake, but for yours. Now judgment is upon this world; now the ruler of this world will be cast out. And I, if I am lifted up from the earth, will draw all people to Myself.” John 12.

Because of Christ's crucifixion and the sending of the Holy Spirit, all Gentiles as well as Jews shall be drawn to Christ.
And Rev 12 shows the casting out of Satan was the result of Christ's coronation.

@ the cross, "When He had disarmed the rulers and authorities, He made a public display of them, having triumphed over them through Him. Col 2:5.

And she gave birth to a Son, a male, who is going to rule all the nations with a rod of iron; and her Child was caught up to God and to His throne. Rev 12:15.
The Woman is Israel though, and Satan being bound refers to the totality of his outreach, so no more wars, no more cults and false religions, all worshipping Jesus as Lord, not happening until messianic Age arrives here on earth
 
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