What will happen to Christians who reject the Sabbath?

[Hobie]

I was asked the question, "What will happen to all those Christians who don't worship on the Sabbath?" I gave the following answer... there are some verses that give a clear answer. Here is what best applies....
Acts 17:24-30
24 God that made the world and all things therein, seeing that he is Lord of heaven and earth, dwelleth not in temples made with hands;
25 Neither is worshipped with men's hands, as though he needed any thing, seeing he giveth to all life, and breath, and all things;
26 And hath made of one blood all nations of men for to dwell on all the face of the earth, and hath determined the times before appointed, and the bounds of their habitation;
27 That they should seek the Lord, if haply they might feel after him, and find him, though he be not far from every one of us:
28 For in him we live, and move, and have our being; as certain also of your own poets have said, For we are also his offspring.
29 Forasmuch then as we are the offspring of God, we ought not to think that the Godhead is like unto gold, or silver, or stone, graven by art and man's device.
30 And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent:

When we unknowingly make a honest mistake, Gods grace is sufficient and He winks at our ignorance. But when we in all fullness of understanding knowingly do it.......

 

[Josheb]

I was asked the question, "What will happen to all those Christians who don't worship on the Sabbath?" I gave the following answer... there are some verses that give a clear answer. Here is what best applies....
Acts 17:24-30
24 God that made the world and all things therein, seeing that he is Lord of heaven and earth, dwelleth not in temples made with hands;
25 Neither is worshipped with men's hands, as though he needed any thing, seeing he giveth to all life, and breath, and all things;
26 And hath made of one blood all nations of men for to dwell on all the face of the earth, and hath determined the times before appointed, and the bounds of their habitation;
27 That they should seek the Lord, if haply they might feel after him, and find him, though he be not far from every one of us:
28 For in him we live, and move, and have our being; as certain also of your own poets have said, For we are also his offspring.
29 Forasmuch then as we are the offspring of God, we ought not to think that the Godhead is like unto gold, or silver, or stone, graven by art and man's device.
30 And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent:

When we unknowingly make a honest mistake, Gods grace is sufficient and He winks at our ignorance. But when we in all fullness of understanding knowingly do it.......

Acts 17:24-30 states absolutely nothing about Christians who reject the Sabbath. The question is self-contradictory. Therefore, no scripture will report an answer.


Do you know why the question is self-contradictory?

 

[TrevorL]

Greetings Hobie,

I was asked the question, "What will happen to all those Christians who don't worship on the Sabbath?"

Perhaps we could ask a similar question: "What will happen to those who continually teach that the Sabbath is necessary for the Gentile believers today and what will happen to those who possibly place so much emphasis on this rather than teaching the Gospel of the Kingdom and Name and The Way of Life in Christ?" "Is this false religion?"

Kind regards
Trevor

 

[eclipseEventSigns]

I was asked the question, "What will happen to all those Christians who don't worship on the Sabbath?" I gave the following answer... there are some verses that give a clear answer. Here is what best applies....
Acts 17:24-30
24 God that made the world and all things therein, seeing that he is Lord of heaven and earth, dwelleth not in temples made with hands;
25 Neither is worshipped with men's hands, as though he needed any thing, seeing he giveth to all life, and breath, and all things;
26 And hath made of one blood all nations of men for to dwell on all the face of the earth, and hath determined the times before appointed, and the bounds of their habitation;
27 That they should seek the Lord, if haply they might feel after him, and find him, though he be not far from every one of us:
28 For in him we live, and move, and have our being; as certain also of your own poets have said, For we are also his offspring.
29 Forasmuch then as we are the offspring of God, we ought not to think that the Godhead is like unto gold, or silver, or stone, graven by art and man's device.
30 And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent:

When we unknowingly make a honest mistake, Gods grace is sufficient and He winks at our ignorance. But when we in all fullness of understanding knowingly do it.......

You didn't quote the right part of Acts.
[Act 15:8-11 LSB] 8 "And God, who knows the heart, testified to them giving them the Holy Spirit, just as He also did to us; 9 and He made no distinction between us and them, cleansing their hearts by faith. 10 "Now therefore why do you put God to the test by placing upon the neck of the disciples a yoke which neither our fathers nor we have been able to bear? 11 "But we believe that we are saved through the grace of the Lord Jesus, in the same way as they also are."

The modern day Judaizers are alive and well in comments like yours. There are always people who want to add man made rules to make their own religion.

 

[Mercy_Shown]

I was asked the question, "What will happen to all those Christians who don't worship on the Sabbath?" I gave the following answer... there are some verses that give a clear answer. Here is what best applies....
Acts 17:24-30
24 God that made the world and all things therein, seeing that he is Lord of heaven and earth, dwelleth not in temples made with hands;
25 Neither is worshipped with men's hands, as though he needed any thing, seeing he giveth to all life, and breath, and all things;
26 And hath made of one blood all nations of men for to dwell on all the face of the earth, and hath determined the times before appointed, and the bounds of their habitation;
27 That they should seek the Lord, if haply they might feel after him, and find him, though he be not far from every one of us:
28 For in him we live, and move, and have our being; as certain also of your own poets have said, For we are also his offspring.
29 Forasmuch then as we are the offspring of God, we ought not to think that the Godhead is like unto gold, or silver, or stone, graven by art and man's device.
30 And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent:

When we unknowingly make a honest mistake, Gods grace is sufficient and He winks at our ignorance. But when we in all fullness of understanding knowingly do it.......

We are not lost because we reject or accept doctrines. Our salvation comes from God's calling and adoption. PTL. God is not an accountant, He is a Father to those whom he has adopted. If our salvation depends upon us. we are all toast.

 

[Arial]

We are not lost because we reject or accept doctrines. Our salvation comes from God's calling and adoption. PTL. God is not an accountant, He is a Father to those whom he has adopted. If our salvation depends upon us. we are all toast.

Thus the word of God tells us, and something valuable to remember when we beat ourselves up, trying to fix ourselves, when we stumble. And wonder why, why, why am I not yet sanctified in a particular area, and keep returning to dealing with the same old thing, and suffering the remorse of it.
1 Cor 12:7-9 So to keep me from becoming conceited because of the surpassing greatness of the revelations, a thorn was given me, to keep me from becoming conceited. Three times I pleaded with the Lord about this, that it should leave me. But he said to me, "My grace is sufficient for you, for my power is made perfect in weakness."

It never was, is not now, and will not be until the consummation of all things, our righteousness, but Christ's. Our sins cannot condemn us for He has defeated their power over us. That is His power in our weakness. And sanctification is also His power and His doing. We only have what understanding we are given. Theology and the doctrines derived from them can give us understanding, and that from His word, but they are not what saves one. Christ, who He is and what He did is who and what saves, and brings us into His household. His little children.

 

[CrowCross]

Does one have to be baptized on the sabbath to be saved?

 

[Mercy_Shown]

Does one have to be baptized on the sabbath to be saved?

No

 

[Hobie]

Acts 17:24-30 states absolutely nothing about Christians who reject the Sabbath. The question is self-contradictory. Therefore, no scripture will report an answer.


Do you know why the question is self-contradictory?

The question really is if you now know the truth, why would you rebel against it. We need to be straightforward when it comes to Gods truth and not rebel against it, as we see what Samuel said to King Saul...

1 Samuel 15:23
For rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft, and stubbornness is as iniquity and idolatry. Because thou hast rejected the word of the Lord, he hath also rejected thee from being king.

 

[Josheb]

The question really is if you now know the truth, why would you rebel against it.

Romans 1:18-32 addresses that inquiry and does so fairly succinctly. Those people are explicitly stated to know the truth of God's existence, power, and divine nature (which would presumably mean they knew the truth of the Sabbath) and they still saw fit not to acknowledge Him.

It's a curious question because it is not clear you know the truth as revealed in the New Testament. The op hasn't provided a single verse specifically pertaining to the sabbath. The op, instead, tries to conflate deliberate disobedience from known truth as equal to rejecting the sabbath.

We need to be straightforward when it comes to Gods truth and not rebel against it, as we see what Samuel said to King Saul...

Yes, that is true (no pun intended) but there is nothing in this thread proving any truth concerning the sabbath.

1 Samuel 15:23
For rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft, and stubbornness is as iniquity and idolatry. Because thou hast rejected the word of the Lord, he hath also rejected thee from being king.

Again, not a single word there about the sabbath and any effort to equate rejecting the sabbath with rebellion (or witchcraft) is logically faulty and may prove to be an abuse of scripture (which would, ironically, be a rejection of God's word and hypocritically make you culpable for violating your own argument).

God invites is to reason with him. Jesus reasoned with the Jewish leaders. Paul reasoned with people of all walks of life. The entire Bible is one huge reasoning. Reason is our friend, a God-given gift that is available to anyone in whom His Spirit dwells. So build the case and build it using reason and reasonably, or rationally, used scripture that includes both Old and New Testament content emphasizing the newer revelation over the older.

 

[Mercy_Shown]

Romans 1:18-32 addresses that inquiry and does so fairly succinctly. Those people are explicitly stated to know the truth of God's existence, power, and divine nature (which would presumably mean they knew the truth of the Sabbath) and they still saw fit not to acknowledge Him.

It's a curious question because it is not clear you know the truth as revealed in the New Testament. The op hasn't provided a single verse specifically pertaining to the sabbath. The op, instead, tries to conflate deliberate disobedience from known truth as equal to rejecting the sabbath.

Yes, that is true (no pun intended) but there is nothing in this thread proving any truth concerning the sabbath.

Again, not a single word there about the sabbath and any effort to equate rejecting the sabbath with rebellion (or witchcraft) is logically faulty and may prove to be an abuse of scripture (which would, ironically, be a rejection of God's word and hypocritically make you culpable for violating your own argument).

God invites is to reason with him. Jesus reasoned with the Jewish leaders. Paul reasoned with people of all walks of life. The entire Bible is one huge reasoning. Reason is our friend, a God-given gift that is available to anyone in whom His Spirit dwells. So build the case and build it using reason and reasonably, or rationally, used scripture that includes both Old and New Testament content emphasizing the newer revelation over the older.

It would seem that reducing one’s religion down to a single doctrine whether it be the sabbath or any other fixation is to miss the “weightier matters.”

The sabbath was meant to be an icon of our rest in Christ by his atonement for our sins and his ongoing cleansing.

I think you have answered this post well.

 

[Josheb]

It would seem that reducing one’s religion down to a single doctrine whether it be the sabbath or any other fixation is to miss the “weightier matters.”

I completely agree and would add it perverts the religion God honors and likely ends in idolatry (the opposite of the sabbath's goal).

The sabbath was meant to be an icon of our rest in Christ by his atonement for our sins and his ongoing cleansing.

While I'm not sure I know what you mean by "icon," the sabbath did testify about Jesus and it did attest to the atonement, but I would not limit the meaning, significance, or the foreshadow of the sabbath to the atonement. This is one of the reasons I encouraged the use of whole scripture, beginning with the most explicit and an emphasis on the newer revelation.

I think you have answered this post well.

LOL! Thanks, the appreciation is appreciated but I'm not expecting an agreeable response from the op despite my belief we share at least a modicum of views about the sabbath.

 

[Mercy_Shown]

I completely agree and would add it perverts the religion God honors and likely ends in idolatry (the opposite of the sabbath's goal).

While I'm not sure I know what you mean by "icon," the sabbath did testify about Jesus and it did attest to the atonement, but I would not limit the meaning, significance, or the foreshadow of the sabbath to the atonement. This is one of the reasons I encouraged the use of whole scripture, beginning with the most explicit and an emphasis on the newer revelation.

LOL! Thanks, the appreciation is appreciated but I'm not expecting an agreeable response from the op despite my belief we share at least a modicum of views about the sabbath.

Yes, we do. My view is informed by Hebrews 4. If you do not mind, I would love to hear your thoughts on it.

 

[Josheb]

.........I would love to hear your thoughts on it.

Would you mind being specific?