THE WORD OF GOD IS FOR BELIEVERS ONLY

[jeremiah1five]

The three parts of the Old Testament are:

The Law: written by a believer in Covenant with God to and for other believers in Covenant with God.

The Psalms: written by various believers in Covenant with God to and for other believers in Covenant with God.

The Prophets: written by several believers in Covenant with God to and for other believers in Covenant with God.

The Four Gospels: written by believers in Covenant with God to and for other believers in Covenant with God.

The Epistles: written by several believers in Covenant with God to and for other believers in Covenant with God.

Paul writes to the CHURCH at Corinth, Rome, Galatia, Ephesus, Thessalonia, and personal letters to Titus, Timothy, and Philemon, all believers in Covenant with God.
Paul does not write to the world at Corinth, or to the world at Rome, Galatia, etc.

Peter writes to the elect of God in both epistles.

James writes to the twelve tribes scattered...

John writes to believers from the Isle of Patmos the Revelation of Jesus Christ. Etc.

Jesus Christ was prophesied to and for Israel. Jesus Christ is a "Jewish" Messiah. Christ came to and for Israel (Jn. 1:31.)
And when Christ returns the second time He comes to and for His people Israel (Gentiles are grafted in.)

If anyone asks of the hope in you about Christianity just tell them: Christianity is Completed Judaism.

So to speak.

 

[EarlyActs]

The three parts of the Old Testament are:

The Law: written by a believer in Covenant with God to and for other believers in Covenant with God.

The Psalms: written by various believers in Covenant with God to and for other believers in Covenant with God.

The Prophets: written by several believers in Covenant with God to and for other believers in Covenant with God.

The Four Gospels: written by believers in Covenant with God to and for other believers in Covenant with God.

The Epistles: written by several believers in Covenant with God to and for other believers in Covenant with God.

Paul writes to the CHURCH at Corinth, Rome, Galatia, Ephesus, Thessalonia, and personal letters to Titus, Timothy, and Philemon, all believers in Covenant with God.
Paul does not write to the world at Corinth, or to the world at Rome, Galatia, etc.

Peter writes to the elect of God in both epistles.

James writes to the twelve tribes scattered...

John writes to believers from the Isle of Patmos the Revelation of Jesus Christ. Etc.

Jesus Christ was prophesied to and for Israel. Jesus Christ is a "Jewish" Messiah. Christ came to and for Israel (Jn. 1:31.)
And when Christ returns the second time He comes to and for His people Israel (Gentiles are grafted in.)

If anyone asks of the hope in you about Christianity just tell them: Christianity is Completed Judaism.

So to speak.

The mission to the nations is embedded in every document of Scripture. It is the initial blessing Abraham was informed of. "Salvation is from the Jews" as Jesus said in Jn 4, meaning it came through that channel, but it could have been any.

The mission to the nations jump-started in the Pentecost event, which any person with the basics of Biblical narrative would know was targeted as a reversal of the arrogant and corrupt Babel effort. God was now taking one message to all nations about his Son, through a feast event from the Law.

The Amos 9 quote in Acts 15 makes it clear that James knew that Peter was aware that God was planning all along to gain believers from among the nations. "This has been known from ancient times." There is no surprise, interruption, mystery, plan B. The only thing mysterious (to Judaism) was that it did not come by the Law. It was 'through the Gospel,...' says Eph 3:5,6, defining precisely what the mystery was in relation to Israel.

 

[jeremiah1five]

The mission to the nations is embedded in every document of Scripture. It is the initial blessing Abraham was informed of. "Salvation is from the Jews" as Jesus said in Jn 4, meaning it came through that channel, but it could have been any.

It came ONLY through Jesus Christ.

The mission to the nations jump-started in the Pentecost event, which any person with the basics of Biblical narrative would know was targeted as a reversal of the arrogant and corrupt Babel effort. God was now taking one message to all nations about his Son, through a feast event from the Law.

The mission to the Gentiles began with Adam and the woman:

15 And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; Gen. 3:15.

For besides the actual creation of Man which began the Redemptive Plan of Man Gentiles soon after were called of God to His Covenant.
The Gentile line went through Seth, Enos, Cainan, Mahahlaleel, Jared, Enoch, Methuselah, Lamech, Noah. Abraham was an idol-worshiping Gentile. Later there were Gentiles that came with the Israelites out of Egypt, and when the Tabernacle was built Gentiles that converted lived a ways off from the Israelites. Then there was Rahab, and Ruth the Moabitess, and still other Gentiles that God accepted into Covenant. Jesus Christ Himself had great-grandmothers in His family line. There was the Roman centurion who was a God-fearer, Cornelius, Timothy. But the floodgates were actually opened after the destruction of Solomon's/Herod's Temple in 70AD. This effectively ended the 'ism' of Judaism.
The Day of Pentecost was also a continuation of God's Redemptive plan, and it continued in Jerusalem for many years until the destruction of the Temple.

The Amos 9 quote in Acts 15 makes it clear that James knew that Peter was aware that God was planning all along to gain believers from among the nations. "This has been known from ancient times." There is no surprise, interruption, mystery, plan B. The only thing mysterious (to Judaism) was that it did not come by the Law. It was 'through the Gospel,...' says Eph 3:5,6, defining precisely what the mystery was in relation to Israel.

In Acts 15:7 Peter recounts how God used him to witness to Cornelius a Gentile to hear the gospel of Jesus and be saved.

7 And when there had been much disputing, Peter rose up, and said unto them, Men and brethren, ye know how that a good while ago God made choice among us, that the Gentiles by my mouth should hear the word of the gospel, and believe. Acts 15:7.

But before that Peter was reluctant to understand and obey God in his vision for when God said, "Kill and eat," Peter refused saying, "Not so, Lord; for I have never eaten anything that is common or unclean" meaning that Gentiles were represented in his vision as unclean animals.

The Redemptive Plan of Man came not only through Gentiles and Hebrews but also through the Covenants. In both you can draw a line all the way back to Adam and Eve.

Everything about God's Redemptive Plan was mystery. Even prophets 'desired to look into' their prophecies they spoke and wrote to Israel. But each generation is only allowed what light God desires to give each generation in order to understand His Plan.

25 Now to him that is of power to stablish you according to my gospel, and the preaching of Jesus Christ, according to the revelation of the mystery, which was kept secret since the world began, 26 But now is made manifest, and by the scriptures of the prophets, according to the commandment of the everlasting God, made known to all nations for the obedience of faith: Rom. 16:25–26.

I think thou need to update your chronology on God's Redemptive history of Man.

 

[EarlyActs]

It came ONLY through Jesus Christ.

The mission to the Gentiles began with Adam and the woman:

15 And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; Gen. 3:15.

For besides the actual creation of Man which began the Redemptive Plan of Man Gentiles soon after were called of God to His Covenant.
The Gentile line went through Seth, Enos, Cainan, Mahahlaleel, Jared, Enoch, Methuselah, Lamech, Noah. Abraham was an idol-worshiping Gentile. Later there were Gentiles that came with the Israelites out of Egypt, and when the Tabernacle was built Gentiles that converted lived a ways off from the Israelites. Then there was Rahab, and Ruth the Moabitess, and still other Gentiles that God accepted into Covenant. Jesus Christ Himself had great-grandmothers in His family line. There was the Roman centurion who was a God-fearer, Cornelius, Timothy. But the floodgates were actually opened after the destruction of Solomon's/Herod's Temple in 70AD. This effectively ended the 'ism' of Judaism.
The Day of Pentecost was also a continuation of God's Redemptive plan, and it continued in Jerusalem for many years until the destruction of the Temple.

In Acts 15:7 Peter recounts how God used him to witness to Cornelius a Gentile to hear the gospel of Jesus and be saved.

7 And when there had been much disputing, Peter rose up, and said unto them, Men and brethren, ye know how that a good while ago God made choice among us, that the Gentiles by my mouth should hear the word of the gospel, and believe. Acts 15:7.

But before that Peter was reluctant to understand and obey God in his vision for when God said, "Kill and eat," Peter refused saying, "Not so, Lord; for I have never eaten anything that is common or unclean" meaning that Gentiles were represented in his vision as unclean animals.

The Redemptive Plan of Man came not only through Gentiles and Hebrews but also through the Covenants. In both you can draw a line all the way back to Adam and Eve.

Everything about God's Redemptive Plan was mystery. Even prophets 'desired to look into' their prophecies they spoke and wrote to Israel. But each generation is only allowed what light God desires to give each generation in order to understand His Plan.

25 Now to him that is of power to stablish you according to my gospel, and the preaching of Jesus Christ, according to the revelation of the mystery, which was kept secret since t world began, 26 But now is made manifest, and by the scriptures of the prophets, according to the commandment of the everlasting God, made known to all nations for the obedience of faith: Rom. 16:25–26.

I think thou need to update your chronology on God's Redemptive history of Man.

You missed what I was saying about the promise. The point was that is was there all along, not a plan B that needed to happen as an after thought.

We have no disagreement about the mission to the nations. I don't know what you are seeing but you are almost copying what I said.

OK Pentecost was a continuation. Almost exactly what I said. I don't know why you are sending back to me most of these comments.

re Peter. You missed the point about James himself. He knew that the plan all along was to reach Gentiles, which is why the circular letter was not 613 Torah commands. It isn't just Peter describing Acts 10. You are not retaining what I'm saying.

re the mystery. No on being known all through the ages. The mission became a mystery to Judaizers because they wanted people to enter the messianic community of faith through the Law. The key phrase of Eph 3:5 is "through the Gospel." Every Judaizer would have said the inclusion was to happen through the Law.

God could keep this method secret while giving the torah, but it was still there. Most of apostolic preaching was these key OT texts that did reach out to them. The important part of Rom 16 is the 'tagmata'--the decree. Since the resurrection which was the Davidic enthronement this decree has made God's salvation clear to the nations.

So I fail to see any relevance to your last statement.

 

[jeremiah1five]

You missed what I was saying about the promise. The point was that is was there all along, not a plan B that needed to happen as an after thought.

We have no disagreement about the mission to the nations. I don't know what you are seeing but you are almost copying what I said.

OK Pentecost was a continuation. Almost exactly what I said. I don't know why you are sending back to me most of these comments.

re Peter. You missed the point about James himself. He knew that the plan all along was to reach Gentiles, which is why the circular letter was not 613 Torah commands. It isn't just Peter describing Acts 10. You are not retaining what I'm saying.

re the mystery. No on being known all through the ages. The mission became a mystery to Judaizers because they wanted people to enter the messianic community of faith through the Law. The key phrase of Eph 3:5 is "through the Gospel." Every Judaizer would have said the inclusion was to happen through the Law.

God could keep this method secret while giving the torah, but it was still there. Most of apostolic preaching was these key OT texts that did reach out to them. The important part of Rom 16 is the 'tagmata'--the decree. Since the resurrection which was the Davidic enthronement this decree has made God's salvation clear to the nations.

So I fail to see any relevance to your last statement.

Peter was resistent to God's vision in Acts 10. It's not that he knew the plan of God to reach Gentiles, He was against it being a "Jew."

 

[EarlyActs]

Peter was resistent to God's vision in Acts 10. It's not that he knew the plan of God to reach Gentiles, He was against it being a "Jew."

He learned the hard way. You are not seeing what Acts 15 is reporting: James credits him with starting the outreach to the Gentiles, and the Amos 9 quote is there specifically to validate that it was the plan all along, known for ages.

This of course had just been declared in Acts 13 when Paul quoted Isaiah. That Israel was meant to be a light to the Gentiles. That seems to have sparked friction with those in Judaism, who had it wrong.

 

[EarlyActs]

fyi, in Enoch's Ten Weeks of History #8 is that Messiah comes, while #9 is that he helps prepare (the people, the world) for judgement) which is at the end of #9 and a new world replaces the old, as week #10.

In Judaism, there is the attack on hostile powers by Messiah, their defeat, the renovation of Jerusalem, the gathering of dispersed Jews, the Davidic kingdom of glory in Judea and the renewal of the whole earth.

Because Enoch himself pre-dates Judaism, I wonder if we see the significance. Do you find the Judaism list to be Christian? In his history, Schurer notes: "In none of the numerous rabbinic works have we found the slightest allusion to an atoning suffering of Messiah."

 

[jeremiah1five]

He learned the hard way. You are not seeing what Acts 15 is reporting: James credits him with starting the outreach to the Gentiles, and the Amos 9 quote is there specifically to validate that it was the plan all along, known for ages.

This of course had just been declared in Acts 13 when Paul quoted Isaiah. That Israel was meant to be a light to the Gentiles. That seems to have sparked friction with those in Judaism, who had it wrong.

The apostles were ignorant of the whole Gentiles thing. James may have credited Pete with “starting” the outreach, but it was only a continuation of Christ’s outreach to Gentiles with the Roman centurion and the Syrophoenician woman who asked for crumbs, among others.

Pete wasn’t receptive to his vision to kill and eat unclean animals until the third time and after that he still doubted what it meant. Visitors sent by Cornelius asked Pete to come see him. When he did arrive that’s when it dawned on him after being asked to speak of his experiences with Israel’s Messiah.

It was the plan of God and this plan was in Scripture but Pete didn’t have the Scripture.

The events in Acts 13 was approximately 1-3 years after Pete’s vision. When Paul left the church in Antioch he went into the synagogues in the various cities he visited preaching Christ to his tribal brethren, meaning the “Jews.”

Overall, the command by Jesus to preach the Gospel of God was a ministry to the “Jews,” not Gentiles. Taking each chapter in Acts as approximately one year a chapter, after eight years the apostles were still in Jerusalem. Even persecution didn’t make them leave to fulfill the Lord’s command to preach to the “Jews” scattered throughout the then-known world. And “Jews” were everywhere due to the Diaspora.

 

[EarlyActs]

The apostles were ignorant of the whole Gentiles thing. James may have credited Pete with “starting” the outreach, but it was only a continuation of Christ’s outreach to Gentiles with the Roman centurion and the Syrophoenician woman who asked for crumbs, among others.

Pete wasn’t receptive to his vision to kill and eat unclean animals until the third time and after that he still doubted what it meant. Visitors sent by Cornelius asked Pete to come see him. When he did arrive that’s when it dawned on him after being asked to speak of his experiences with Israel’s Messiah.

It was the plan of God and this plan was in Scripture but Pete didn’t have the Scripture.

The events in Acts 13 was approximately 1-3 years after Pete’s vision. When Paul left the church in Antioch he went into the synagogues in the various cities he visited preaching Christ to his tribal brethren, meaning the “Jews.”

Overall, the command by Jesus to preach the Gospel of God was a ministry to the “Jews,” not Gentiles. Taking each chapter in Acts as approximately one year a chapter, after eight years the apostles were still in Jerusalem. Even persecution didn’t make them leave to fulfill the Lord’s command to preach to the “Jews” scattered throughout the then-known world. And “Jews” were everywhere due to the Diaspora.

Your missing a lot.

Greeks came to interview Jesus.

John B said 'the lamb takes away the sins of the world.' I guess word got out and that make non-Jews inquire.

Pentecost automatically spread the word around the whole empire. Those people went home with a now double unusual message; that Christ was enthroned on his Davidic throne in the resurrection, which also happened because atonment had been accomplished, and 2, that the Spirit was poured out as a celebration and publicization of this message.

Hard to think of people not talking all the way home with two such dazzling lights in their eyes!

All the same, the message was hidden (Rom 16 has the embedded sense to it) in the OT for anyone. Then in the same lines Paul says there was an 'entagma'--a decree--that it should be known. Which is a way of saying it was there and not at the same time.

The interfering or blocking thing was the Law, zeal for the Law. This made Judaism replace a very precious piece of their history--the Law took prominence over the Promise to Abraham, Gal 3:17. This replacement theology was pernicious and ruined much of Paul's work, yet the faith still survived even that.

Shalom, in Christ,

 

[jeremiah1five]

Your missing a lot.

Greeks came to interview Jesus.

John B said 'the lamb takes away the sins of the world.' I guess word got out and that make non-Jews inquire.

Pentecost automatically spread the word around the whole empire. Those people went home with a now double unusual message; that Christ was enthroned on his Davidic throne in the resurrection, which also happened because atonment had been accomplished, and 2, that the Spirit was poured out as a celebration and publicization of this message.

Hard to think of people not talking all the way home with two such dazzling lights in their eyes!

All the same, the message was hidden (Rom 16 has the embedded sense to it) in the OT for anyone. Then in the same lines Paul says there was an 'entagma'--a decree--that it should be known. Which is a way of saying it was there and not at the same time.

The interfering or blocking thing was the Law, zeal for the Law. This made Judaism replace a very precious piece of their history--the Law took prominence over the Promise to Abraham, Gal 3:17. This replacement theology was pernicious and ruined much of Paul's work, yet the faith still survived even that.

Shalom, in Christ,

They were in the Jordan. The Jordan is in Israel proper.
Jews came to be baptized, not Gentiles.

3 In those days came John the Baptist, preaching in the wilderness of Judaea, Mt 3.

5 Then went out to him Jerusalem, and all Judaea, and all the region round about Jordan, Mt 3:5.

These areas were occupied by the twelve tribes scattered.

5 And there went out unto him all the land of Judaea, and they of Jerusalem, and were all baptized of him in the river of Jordan, confessing their sins. Mk 1:5.

7 Then said he to the multitude that came forth to be baptized of him, O generation of vipers, who hath warned you to flee from the wrath to come? 8 Bring forth therefore fruits worthy of repentance, and begin not to say within yourselves, We have Abraham to our father: for I say unto you, That God is able of these stones to raise up children unto Abraham. Lk 3:7–8.

"Jews" have Abraham as their father. Johnny B. was speaking to "Jews" not Gentiles.

This "Jewish" Messiah/Christ was Promised to the Chosen people Israel (Deut. 18:18.)
He came to the Chosen people of God (Israel):

31 And I knew him not: but that he should be made manifest to Israel, therefore am I come baptizing with water. Jn 1:30–31.

All these things concerning Johnny B's ministry to Israel was in front of a "Jewish" audience.

 

[jeremiah1five]

fyi, in Enoch's Ten Weeks of History #8 is that Messiah comes, while #9 is that he helps prepare (the people, the world) for judgement) which is at the end of #9 and a new world replaces the old, as week #10.

In Judaism, there is the attack on hostile powers by Messiah, their defeat, the renovation of Jerusalem, the gathering of dispersed Jews, the Davidic kingdom of glory in Judea and the renewal of the whole earth.

Because Enoch himself pre-dates Judaism, I wonder if we see the significance. Do you find the Judaism list to be Christian? In his history, Schurer notes: "In none of the numerous rabbinic works have we found the slightest allusion to an atoning suffering of Messiah."

Isaiah paints two portraits.
One as a Suffering Servant, the other a Conquering King.
So, yes, they in Israel knew who He was.
Forget the rabbinical writings.
Go to the Scriptures for answers concerning Messiah/Christ.

39 Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me.
Jn 5:39.

 

[EarlyActs]

They were in the Jordan. The Jordan is in Israel proper.
Jews came to be baptized, not Gentiles.

3 In those days came John the Baptist, preaching in the wilderness of Judaea, Mt 3.

5 Then went out to him Jerusalem, and all Judaea, and all the region round about Jordan, Mt 3:5.

These areas were occupied by the twelve tribes scattered.

5 And there went out unto him all the land of Judaea, and they of Jerusalem, and were all baptized of him in the river of Jordan, confessing their sins. Mk 1:5.

7 Then said he to the multitude that came forth to be baptized of him, O generation of vipers, who hath warned you to flee from the wrath to come? 8 Bring forth therefore fruits worthy of repentance, and begin not to say within yourselves, We have Abraham to our father: for I say unto you, That God is able of these stones to raise up children unto Abraham. Lk 3:7–8.

"Jews" have Abraham as their father. Johnny B. was speaking to "Jews" not Gentiles.

This "Jewish" Messiah/Christ was Promised to the Chosen people Israel (Deut. 18:18.)
He came to the Chosen people of God (Israel):

31 And I knew him not: but that he should be made manifest to Israel, therefore am I come baptizing with water. Jn 1:30–31.

All these things concerning Johnny B's ministry to Israel was in front of a "Jewish" audience.

Actually he was saying that they could not claim that lineage, which is the same thing, by subtext, that Jesus said to Nicodemus: that he would have to another birth than the one he knew.

The world is the world, sir. I have no idea why you are going on about this. As has been explained before the Israel emphasis is to train them to be missionaries to go out. He started with 70, by Pentecost maybe had 2 each for each of those 70, and so when it hit, it was known to 'reach those who are near and those who are far away.'

"I came only to the lost house" did not squelch the Canaanite's faith, it drew it out. Btw, the hand has always been open to the lost house because Jesus does not operate in race-groups, and he operates for his mission. (Jn 13-17, to the world).

When Jesus was accused of being a Samaritan and demon-possessed in Jn 7, he said a beautiful thing if we are listening: he said he was not demonic. He never denied he was a Samaritan. We are to see Jesus as Jewish--Costa Rican--Mongolian--whatever. He was the 2nd Adam.

It is worth contrasting the "10 weeks of Enoch" with Judaism. They see Messiah come in week 8 and part of 8 is 'preparing for judgement,' which is 9. This truly sets up the NT because it has a gospel for people in the face of judgement. Week 10 is the new world.

In Judaism, 'the idea of a suffering Messiah' is no where found in rabbinnics, --Schurer's HISTORY. The conqueror Messiah gets the land, purifies it, gets Jerusalem purifies it, rules from Jerusalem and makes the nations follow the Law. That is the new world. A bit short on the mission to the nations, I would say. It matches Jn 12:34. Israel had no sense of mission, because of the Law. That means all it knew was dominance through Messiah.

Of course, you can always say there are two messiahs. It just wouldn't hold.

 

[EarlyActs]

Isaiah paints two portraits.
One as a Suffering Servant, the other a Conquering King.
So, yes, they in Israel knew who He was.
Forget the rabbinical writings.
Go to the Scriptures for answers concerning Messiah/Christ.

39 Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me.
Jn 5:39.

Of course, which is why I don't accept most of what you say. We have to have the NT interp the OT for us. I find it completely different from what you say. Israel did not know, and if Paul's description of his times means anything, it is because of their replacement theology, summarized in Gal 3:17, disjointing the flow.

 

[jeremiah1five]

Of course, which is why I don't accept most of what you say. We have to have the NT interp the OT for us. I find it completely different from what you say. Israel did not know, and if Paul's description of his times means anything, it is because of their replacement theology, summarized in Gal 3:17, disjointing the flow.

We use the Old Testament to understand the New Testament. You have it backwards.
And no, I don't accept replacement theology that the Church replaced Israel, or that Matthias replaced Judas.

 

[jeremiah1five]

Actually he was saying that they could not claim that lineage, which is the same thing, by subtext, that Jesus said to Nicodemus: that he would have to another birth than the one he knew.

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The world is the world, sir. I have no idea why you are going on about this. As has been explained before the Israel emphasis is to train them to be missionaries to go out. He started with 70, by Pentecost maybe had 2 each for each of those 70, and so when it hit, it was known to 'reach those who are near and those who are far away.'

He sent them apostles in Matthew to the lost sheep of the House of ISRAEL. They were commanded to stay away from the Gentiles.
The 70 sent out in Luke is went to the lost sheep of the house of ISRAEL. They were sent ahead to the cities and places He would come and He went to ISRAEL.

"I came only to the lost house" did not squelch the Canaanite's faith, it drew it out. Btw, the hand has always been open to the lost house because Jesus does not operate in race-groups, and he operates for his mission. (Jn 13-17, to the world).

The Canaanite was awaiting Israel's Messiah.

25 For a certain woman, whose young daughter had an unclean spirit, heard of him, and came and fell at his feet:
26 The woman was a Greek, a Syrophenician by nation; and she besought him that he would cast forth the devil out of her daughter.
27 But Jesus said unto her, Let the children first be filled: for it is not meet to take the children’s bread, and to cast it unto the dogs.
28 And she answered and said unto him, Yes, Lord: yet the dogs under the table eat of the children’s crumbs. 29 And he said unto her, For this saying go thy way; the devil is gone out of thy daughter.
30 And when she was come to her house, she found the devil gone out, and her daughter laid upon the bed. Mk 7:25–30.

Verse 25: Faith cometh by hearing and hearing by the Word of God. This woman knew the prophecies of Israel's Messiah and she knew Messiah was come to Israel, not the Gentiles. She knew her place. She knew that one day yet future God would bring in Gentiles into His kingdom but towards that day all she wanted was a few crumbs today. THIS is what prompted Jesus to say, "Great is thy faith."
When Jesus came the ONLY race He was concerned about was the "Jewish" race.

When Jesus was accused of being a Samaritan and demon-possessed in Jn 7, he said a beautiful thing if we are listening: he said he was not demonic. He never denied he was a Samaritan. We are to see Jesus as Jewish--Costa Rican--Mongolian--whatever. He was the 2nd Adam.

We are to see Jesus as He is described in Scripture.
From the tribe of Judah.
A "Jew." Not Costa-Rican, not black, not Russian, but "JEWISH"

It is worth contrasting the "10 weeks of Enoch" with Judaism. They see Messiah come in week 8 and part of 8 is 'preparing for judgement,' which is 9. This truly sets up the NT because it has a gospel for people in the face of judgement. Week 10 is the new world.

??

In Judaism, 'the idea of a suffering Messiah' is no where found in rabbinnics, --Schurer's HISTORY. The conqueror Messiah gets the land, purifies it, gets Jerusalem purifies it, rules from Jerusalem and makes the nations follow the Law. That is the new world. A bit short on the mission to the nations, I would say. It matches Jn 12:34. Israel had no sense of mission, because of the Law. That means all it knew was dominance through Messiah.
Of course, you can always say there are two messiahs. It just wouldn't hold.

Forget the Rabbinic.
It's all about Scripture. The Word of God.

 

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We use the Old Testament to understand the New Testament. You have it backwards.
And no, I don't accept replacement theology that the Church replaced Israel, or that Matthias replaced Judas.

In that case there was no point in Christ explaining Moses and the prophets for 40 days. Zilch. The interps of the apostles about Ps 2, 16, 110, 118 are straight from Christ, and found in early Acts.

You are referring to the modern artificial problem called replacement theology. It is 180 out of step with what Paul explained about the Judaizers 'voiding and setting aside' (replacing) the Promse in Gal 3:17. btw it is not the land promise that he is concerned about, and that is a lesson in itself.

 

[EarlyActs]

???

He sent them apostles in Matthew to the lost sheep of the House of ISRAEL. They were commanded to stay away from the Gentiles.
The 70 sent out in Luke is went to the lost sheep of the house of ISRAEL. They were sent ahead to the cities and places He would come and He went to ISRAEL.

The Canaanite was awaiting Israel's Messiah.

25 For a certain woman, whose young daughter had an unclean spirit, heard of him, and came and fell at his feet:
26 The woman was a Greek, a Syrophenician by nation; and she besought him that he would cast forth the devil out of her daughter.
27 But Jesus said unto her, Let the children first be filled: for it is not meet to take the children’s bread, and to cast it unto the dogs.
28 And she answered and said unto him, Yes, Lord: yet the dogs under the table eat of the children’s crumbs. 29 And he said unto her, For this saying go thy way; the devil is gone out of thy daughter.
30 And when she was come to her house, she found the devil gone out, and her daughter laid upon the bed. Mk 7:25–30.

Verse 25: Faith cometh by hearing and hearing by the Word of God. This woman knew the prophecies of Israel's Messiah and she knew Messiah was come to Israel, not the Gentiles. She knew her place. She knew that one day yet future God would bring in Gentiles into His kingdom but towards that day all she wanted was a few crumbs today. THIS is what prompted Jesus to say, "Great is thy faith."
When Jesus came the ONLY race He was concerned about was the "Jewish" race.

We are to see Jesus as He is described in Scripture.
From the tribe of Judah.
A "Jew." Not Costa-Rican, not black, not Russian, but "JEWISH"

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Forget the Rabbinic.
It's all about Scripture. The Word of God.

Well you fell for it on the last one! It is straight D'ism. That's exactly their eschatology, as though the Gospel event was a big mistake and distraction.

Christ is the new man, the new Adam. He is trans-cultural. That's why Romans, Eph, Col, Gal resonate with 'in Christ there is neither ..... ' about races, genders, classes.'

You are right he went to Israel--to create missionaries. Because of all the built-ins. Haven't you ever wondered why Mt 10s instructions to missionaries are also in Mt 24 about the later 1st cent. conditions? They were for all those taking the Gospel, with the tentative time frame that the end will not come until all parts of earth have heard, the usual Christian message theme.

 

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In that case there was no point in Christ explaining Moses and the prophets for 40 days. Zilch. The interps of the apostles about Ps 2, 16, 110, 118 are straight from Christ, and found in early Acts.

You are referring to the modern artificial problem called replacement theology. It is 180 out of step with what Paul explained about the Judaizers 'voiding and setting aside' (replacing) the Promse in Gal 3:17. btw it is not the land promise that he is concerned about, and that is a lesson in itself.

27 And beginning at Moses and all the prophets, he expounded unto them in all the scriptures the things concerning himself. Lk 24:27.

He also opened up the Psalms and Prophets to them also.

Replacement Theology is the teaching that the Church replaced Israe and that Matthias replaced Judas.
What God started God continues and ends.
He doesn't replace in the Body of Christ. He adds:

47 Praising God, and having favour with all the people. And the Lord added to the church daily such as should be saved. Acts 2:47.

 

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Well you fell for it on the last one! It is straight D'ism. That's exactly their eschatology, as though the Gospel event was a big mistake and distraction.

Christ is the new man, the new Adam. He is trans-cultural. That's why Romans, Eph, Col, Gal resonate with 'in Christ there is neither ..... ' about races, genders, classes.'

You are right he went to Israel--to create missionaries. Because of all the built-ins. Haven't you ever wondered why Mt 10s instructions to missionaries are also in Mt 24 about the later 1st cent. conditions? They were for all those taking the Gospel, with the tentative time frame that the end will not come until all parts of earth have heard, the usual Christian message theme.

There were many other reasons why God sent His Son to His people Israel.
Let's say the same thing as God and not replace words that are found in Scripture. Because when you do you bring new meaning when the original meaning is what God said and meant.
Christ is not the "new" Adam, He is the last Adam.

The Times of the Gentiles will end, and God will turn His attention back to Israel.
And Christians will be PISSED, because when Israel takes command of their Christ and knowing they are the Chosen people of God in a new light and that everything concerning Christ has "Jewish" roots and beginnings, the Church will be made to feel second class and humbled when the world comes to know Israel is the apple of God's eye and that God will shower His love upon them in a new Pentecost, there will be jealousy and envy.
For a time.
The Christian churches today believe they are all that and a bag of chips. There will be hard feelings in certain quarters of Christendom. With all this Hellenizing of the Gospel of God the church does, with all this attitude of making Christ into the image of Gentiles, and then to come to know everything about Christ is "Jewish." Who knows, maybe America will turn its back on them, or maybe a new persecution will arise from Christians as it was in Germany in WW2. A new "Night of Broken Glass." Maybe new laws restricting them will be passed. The Church will go through the Time of Jacobs Trouble and Israel's troubles may not only be from the unsaved Goyim [Gentiles.]
Those Christians who spend much time reading about WHO is Antichrist, or the Beast, or the False Prophet instead of spending their time learning Christ will be the ones awaiting the Antichrist, and the Beast, and the False Prophet. Remember, there will be a falling away first so that the man of sin be revealed. And who controls the falling away?
God.
In order for darkness to reign Light must diminish. And in order for deception to arise in the minds of Christians it starts will false theology about God.
Arminianism is that false theology.
The Holy Spirit keeps evil in check by His influent Presence. But if He were to withdraw His Presence then evil will emerge. And if He spends His attention back on Israel and in doing so the Church goes through a dry period in their lives because of this as a plan from God to test His Times of the Gentile-people there can be as part of the deception for a season an animosity towards the "Jews" coming from Gentile-Christian quarters.

Remember also that we suffer from something called the Fruit of the Tree of the KNOWLEDGE of Good and Evil. Sometimes God allows one of His kids or some of His kids to go through a hate-period against someone before true love is brought forward and the Christian learns love in certain circumstances. The deeper the hate at one time that God turns around, the deeper the love that results.
You know of testimonies of persons who unsaved hate God with a passion but once saved their depth of love for God goes beyond their depth of hate they once had.
Think about these things.
They are possible.
And probable.

 

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27 And beginning at Moses and all the prophets, he expounded unto them in all the scriptures the things concerning himself. Lk 24:27.

He also opened up the Psalms and Prophets to them also.

Replacement Theology is the teaching that the Church replaced Israe and that Matthias replaced Judas.
What God started God continues and ends.
He doesn't replace in the Body of Christ. He adds:

47 Praising God, and having favour with all the people. And the Lord added to the church daily such as should be saved. Acts 2:47.

Modern RT exists because of the belief that there are two programs & peoples. That is an artifice.

In Gal 3:17, the Judaizers ignored that the Gospel promise to the nations was before the Law, and focused only on the Law, putting people and Gentiles "under the Law"--even the Judaizers who said they were themselves Christians! That is what is the issue over and over in the NT: some of Romans, 2 Cor 3-5, Galatians, Colossians, Phil 3.

When I learned that Gal 3 was one of the most neglected and despised chapters, decades ago, I researched deeply and realized that modern RT is a snowjob, a blocking noise, a wall, so that people don't realize what the NT is actually saying.

The other way Paul reports the Judaizers replaced the Gospel is the end of Rom 9 and beginning of 10. They established their own, replacing Christs. This leads each group in very different directions, and made the Judaizers sabotage Paul.

That is what the NT is about.