The trumpet judgements

[Carbon]

What are the trumpet judgments?

Hendriksen explains them this way:
These trumpets of judgment (chapters 8-11) indicate a series of happenings, that is, calamities that will occur again and again throughout this dispensation. They do not symbolize single and separate events, but they refer to woes that may be seen any day of the year in any part of the globe. Therefore, the trumpets are synchronous with the seals.

Again, these trumpets of judgments are clearly retributive in character. Terrible calamities befall the wicked in order to punish them for their opposition to the cause of Christ and for their persecution of the saints. Yet, even by means of these judgments, God is constantly calling the ungodly to repentance.
These woes do not symbolize God's final and complete displeasure. On the contrary, they, indicate His initial judgments. They are charged with serious warnings, not with final doom.
Remember, that trumpets warn and that bowls are poured out.
It is for this reason that trumpets affect a third part - not the whole - of the earth, sea, waters, sun, moon, and stars. The very function of the trumpets is to warn,
and if he sees the sword coming upon the land and blows the trumpet and warns the people, Eze 33:3.

 

[Carbon]

I agree with Hendriksen, and just so you all are aware, I am also an Amillennialist.

I believe the first trumpet,..... The first angel blew his trumpet, and there followed hail and fire, mixed with blood, and these were thrown upon the earth. And a third of the earth was burned up, and a third of the trees were burned up, and all green grass was burned up. Rev 8:7.

I think this refers to the time period extending from the first and second coming of the Lord Jesus. And this will afflict the persecutors of the Christian church with various disasters. I also think these are controlled from heaven since it teaches these were thrown upon the earth.

 

[Eleanor]

I agree with Hendriksen, and just so you all are aware, I am also an Amillennialist.

I believe the first trumpet,..... The first angel blew his trumpet, and there followed hail and fire, mixed with blood, and these were thrown upon the earth. And a third of the earth was burned up, and a third of the trees were burned up, and all green grass was burned up. Rev 8:7.

I think this refers to the time period extending from the first and second coming of the Lord Jesus. And this will afflict the persecutors of the Christian church with various disasters. I also think these are controlled from heaven since it teaches these were thrown upon the earth.

Not seeing Revelation as a chronology but rather as a book of completions (7's) of God's four-part plan:

1) completion of Christ's satisfaction -- chps 1-3,
2) completion of God's mercy (church age) for the seed of the woman under 7 seals, trumpets and signs -- chp 4-14,
3) completion of God's wrath (end of church age) for seed of the serpent under 7 plagues and bowls poured out-- chp 15-20,
4) completion of God's inheritance -- chp 21-22,

I see the trumpets as figurative proclamations of the completion of God's protection, and the victory of the church.

 

[Carbon]

Not seeing Revelation as a chronology but rather as a book of completions (7's) of God's four-part plan:

1) completion of Christ's satisfaction -- chps 1-3,
2) completion of God's mercy (church age) for the seed of the woman under 7 seals, trumpets and signs -- chp 4-14,
3) completion of God's wrath (end of church age) for seed of the serpent under 7 plagues and bowls poured out-- chp 15-20,
4) completion of God's inheritance -- chp 21-22,

I see the trumpets as figurative proclamations of the completion of God's protection, and the victory of the church.

I agree with the Progressive Parallelism view

 

[Dave_Regenerated]

I agree with Hendriksen, and just so you all are aware, I am also an Amillennialist.

I believe the first trumpet,..... The first angel blew his trumpet, and there followed hail and fire, mixed with blood, and these were thrown upon the earth. And a third of the earth was burned up, and a third of the trees were burned up, and all green grass was burned up. Rev 8:7.

I think this refers to the time period extending from the first and second coming of the Lord Jesus. And this will afflict the persecutors of the Christian church with various disasters. I also think these are controlled from heaven since it teaches these were thrown upon the earth.

Can you show me from scriptures that we are to try to decipher the future based on what the scriptures hint at in the light of Christ's saying even he did not know when the end of the world would be?

 

[Carbon]

Can you show me from scriptures that we are to try to decipher the future based on what the scriptures hint at in the light of Christ's saying even he did not know when the end of the world would be?

First I would be curious as to how you think I am trying to predict the future. Especially when Jesus returns.

Thanks.

 

[Dave_Regenerated]

First I would be curious as to how you think I am trying to predict the future. Especially when Jesus returns.

Thanks.

I only asked if you are trying to predict the future, not the details of it. Hence the question. I cannot read your mind.

 

[Carbon]

I only asked if you are trying to predict the future, not the details of it. Hence the question. I cannot read your mind.

Nope. In no way, shape, or forum.

 

[Marilyn C]

What are the trumpet judgments?

Hendriksen explains them this way:
These trumpets of judgment (chapters 8-11) indicate a series of happenings, that is, calamities that will occur again and again throughout this dispensation. They do not symbolize single and separate events, but they refer to woes that may be seen any day of the year in any part of the globe. Therefore, the trumpets are synchronous with the seals.

Again, these trumpets of judgments are clearly retributive in character. Terrible calamities befall the wicked in order to punish them for their opposition to the cause of Christ and for their persecution of the saints. Yet, even by means of these judgments, God is constantly calling the ungodly to repentance.
These woes do not symbolize God's final and complete displeasure. On the contrary, they, indicate His initial judgments. They are charged with serious warnings, not with final doom.
Remember, that trumpets warn and that bowls are poured out.
It is for this reason that trumpets affect a third part - not the whole - of the earth, sea, waters, sun, moon, and stars. The very function of the trumpets is to warn,
and if he sees the sword coming upon the land and blows the trumpet and warns the people, Eze 33:3.

So, how is it that most difficulties & calamities affect the poor and not the rich?

Also, how is it that the West can print so much paper currency and then buy real goods from the third world countries, and pay with these paper IOU`s and not get punished?

What about the thriving sex business selling men, women and children for such activity. Where is their punishment?

And think of the pornography out of Hollywood, has that been punished?

I don`t think God is punishing anyone at the moment. You would have to give specifics for proof of that statement.