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Microchipping



Sounds a lot like the beginning of Revelation 13:16. What say you?
Sounds like someone is calling the mark a literal sign. No sign were given to wonder after the last the sign of Jonah was fulfilled by the Son of Man Jesus

The word sign as in signifed is used twice in Revelation . The mark of unconverted mankind (666) a beast of the field not the sign .

Mark is used eight time. The mark . . . . . of his eternal word. . What he says comes to pass and does not return void of the purpose . Believers walk by faith the unseen eternal things of God . as a sign it worked in Cain, working with the father of lies a murder from that very beginning. Cain murdering his brother Abel the apostle who did have the faith of Christ yoked with the Holy Fathers love

Revelation 1:1The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signifiedit by his angel unto his servant John:

Revelation 15:1 And I saw another sign in heaven, great and marvellous, seven angels having the seven last plagues; for in them is filled up the wrath of God.

Genesis 4 . the number of natural unconverted mankind 666. . three usually denote the end of a matter as to whatever is in view like. . strike three. Mankind created on the sixth day

Genesis 4:15 And the Lord said unto him, Therefore whosoever slayeth Cain, vengeance shall be taken on him sevenfold. And the Lord set a mark upon Cain, lest any finding him should kill him

In efect if you kill him I will kill you. it was a life sentence .he spent his whole life as a restless warder always looking back.

Signs must be distinguished from the mark.

Satan the king lying sign to wonder after would call it all one in the same. God sent a strong delusion to Cain so that he could continue to believe the lie of the father of lies, , The liar brings them every day . We can pray give us this day the daily bread as strength to do his will Yoked with Him our burden can be lighter. Like with Able

2 Thessalonians 2:9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,
 
Sounds a lot like the beginning of Revelation 13:16. What say you?
The Beast system of Rev 13 is being built right around us....Kinda like the frog in a kettle...

Is the chip in the video the actual "mark"....I don't think so.....but it's one means of getting the world ready.

CBDC...Central Bank Digital Currency...is on the way and will eventually be tied into some sort of mark...ran by the One World Government powered by the Great Reset.....
 
Sounds like someone is calling the mark a literal sign.
The mark may not be a literal sign...sign....but it will be literal.
Rev 13 presents the mark as something people will receive.
 
The mark may not be a literal sign...sign....but it will be literal.
Rev 13 presents the mark as something people will receive.
The mark we are born with . . . day 6 (666) natural unconverted mankind . The mark. . . whatsoever God says comes to pass .The let there be and it was God alone good.

Rather than sending a famine as to the necessary thing of this dying world he will send a famine for hearing the gospel . Its not fleshly worldly goods we are to buy and not sell but the wisdom of God with the understanding of God

Proverbs 23:23 Buy the truth, and sell it not; also wisdom, and instruction, and understanding.

No sign were given to wonder after .Believers have prophecy the wisdom of God
 
The mark we are born with . . . day 6 (666) natural unconverted mankind . The mark. . . whatsoever God says comes to pass .The let there be and it was God alone good.

Rather than sending a famine as to the necessary thing of this dying world he will send a famine for hearing the gospel . Its not fleshly worldly goods we are to buy and not sell but the wisdom of God with the understanding of God

Proverbs 23:23 Buy the truth, and sell it not; also wisdom, and instruction, and understanding.

No sign were given to wonder after .Believers have prophecy the wisdom of God
Sorry, we are not born with the Rev 13 mark.

And yes, it is fleshly wordly goods we will need the mark to buy and sell....like food, housing, clothing etc.
 
Sorry, we are not born with the Rev 13 mark.

And yes, it is fleshly worldly goods we will need the mark to buy and sell....like food, housing, clothing etc.

Remember Satan is of this world system not will be is. It's not marketplace buying and sell of different signs rather than knowledge .

Jesus says it's a evil generation that does seek after a sign. believers have prophecy. sign for to represent unbelievers

Matthew 12:39 But he answered and said unto them, An evil and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given to it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas:

Not the sign that men recipe rather than the mark. Signs for those who believe not prophecy. Prophecy for the believer but the mark (marvel not rather than believing prophecy )

They must be distinguished from one another .Satan would have it all one and the same saying. . the mark is the sign and a sign is the mark

It all depend what you think the mark is . We know its not a sign and not the mark of the devil as to whatsoever he says comes to pass. The mark of a restless wanderer no gospel rest must be what he brings to pass .

The word mark is first used in Genesis establishing the meaning . It's not whosoever sees the tattoo of Cain as a sign

Genesis 4:15 And the Lord said unto him, Therefore whosoever slayeth Cain, vengeance shall be taken on him sevenfold. And the Lord set a mark upon Cain, lest any finding him should kill him

Philippians 3:14 I press toward the mark for the prize of the high calling of God in Christ Jesus.

Philippians 3:17 Brethren, be followers together of me, and mark them which walk so as ye have us for an ensample.

Revelation 14:9 And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand,. . . Not tattoo a sign

Forehead, or in his hand always speaks of the will of dying mankind. It is not if any man receives a sign tattoo as the number of dying mankind

Below the mark of God's word what he says comes to pass

Exodus 4:8 And it shall come to pass, if they will not believe thee, neither hearken to the voice of the first sign, that they will believe the voice of the latter sign.
 
Sounds like someone is calling the mark a literal sign. No sign were given to wonder after the last the sign of Jonah was fulfilled by the Son of Man Jesus

The word sign as in signifed is used twice in Revelation . The mark of unconverted mankind (666) a beast of the field not the sign .

Mark is used eight time. The mark . . . . . of his eternal word. . What he says comes to pass and does not return void of the purpose . Believers walk by faith the unseen eternal things of God . as a sign it worked in Cain, working with the father of lies a murder from that very beginning. Cain murdering his brother Abel the apostle who did have the faith of Christ yoked with the Holy Fathers love

Revelation 1:1The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signifiedit by his angel unto his servant John:

Revelation 15:1 And I saw another sign in heaven, great and marvellous, seven angels having the seven last plagues; for in them is filled up the wrath of God.

Genesis 4 . the number of natural unconverted mankind 666. . three usually denote the end of a matter as to whatever is in view like. . strike three. Mankind created on the sixth day

Genesis 4:15 And the Lord said unto him, Therefore whosoever slayeth Cain, vengeance shall be taken on him sevenfold. And the Lord set a mark upon Cain, lest any finding him should kill him

In efect if you kill him I will kill you. it was a life sentence .he spent his whole life as a restless warder always looking back.

Signs must be distinguished from the mark.

Satan the king lying sign to wonder after would call it all one in the same. God sent a strong delusion to Cain so that he could continue to believe the lie of the father of lies, , The liar brings them every day . We can pray give us this day the daily bread as strength to do his will Yoked with Him our burden can be lighter. Like with Able

2 Thessalonians 2:9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,
When you say someone you must be referring to me since you are replying to my post. And I didn't say or indicate that the mark of the beast was a literal sign -that is your assumption. The mark of the beast is action that will be implicated upon all who does not belong to Christ. And it is a sign - when one see it coming to pass, that Christ is at the door and about to take it open - that there is only an estimated three and a half to seven years of days / time left upon this Earth.

It seems as if someone is disregarding or not fully understanding what Jesus meant when he said there will be no more signs.

Jesus made many statements concerning what we should look out for in the end days and Matthew 24: 42 East directed his to watch and that means to pay attention to the signs concerning the events that are occurring. In Matthew chapter 10 - Matthew chapter 24 - Luke chapter 11 Luke chapter 21 and others.
Paul's words in 2ndThessalonian chapter 2 - 1st Corinthians chapter 15 and others.
But different people believe differently that's why it is so many different denominations difference in theology and it is God's given right for people to believe as they choose.
Thank you
 
The Beast system of Rev 13 is being built right around us....Kinda like the frog in a kettle...

Is the chip in the video the actual "mark"....I don't think so.....but it's one means of getting the world ready.

CBDC...Central Bank Digital Currency...is on the way and will eventually be tied into some sort of mark...ran by the One World Government powered by the Great Reset.....
Understandable - and yes not only is it digital currency but as it was released a few years ago the pope is stressing One World currency. One World currency will bring about most likely the One World government.

And what better way is there to track people? What better way is there to ensure no one can buy, sell, trade? Other than the microchip's scanning? All of an individuals information will pull up on the computer system. The usage of digital money _ washaterias and even car washes are becoming digital. Homes and autos are becoming digital - employment hiring and salaries paid are becoming digital. And some medical facilities patients have to do palm scanning as a form of ID.

And the microchips that are being used inhumans in the states Sweden and other places in the world contains quite a lot of information as well as access to employment, bank accounts, and medical Care among other things

 
Remember Satan is of this world system not will be is. It's not marketplace buying and sell of different signs rather than knowledge .

Jesus says it's a evil generation that does seek after a sign. believers have prophecy. sign for to represent unbelievers

Matthew 12:39 But he answered and said unto them, An evil and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given to it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas:

Not the sign that men recipe rather than the mark. Signs for those who believe not prophecy. Prophecy for the believer but the mark (marvel not rather than believing prophecy )

They must be distinguished from one another .Satan would have it all one and the same saying. . the mark is the sign and a sign is the mark

It all depend what you think the mark is . We know its not a sign and not the mark of the devil as to whatsoever he says comes to pass. The mark of a restless wanderer no gospel rest must be what he brings to pass .

The word mark is first used in Genesis establishing the meaning . It's not whosoever sees the tattoo of Cain as a sign

Genesis 4:15 And the Lord said unto him, Therefore whosoever slayeth Cain, vengeance shall be taken on him sevenfold. And the Lord set a mark upon Cain, lest any finding him should kill him

Philippians 3:14 I press toward the mark for the prize of the high calling of God in Christ Jesus.

Philippians 3:17 Brethren, be followers together of me, and mark them which walk so as ye have us for an ensample.

Revelation 14:9 And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand,. . . Not tattoo a sign

Forehead, or in his hand always speaks of the will of dying mankind. It is not if any man receives a sign tattoo as the number of dying mankind

Below the mark of God's word what he says comes to pass

Exodus 4:8 And it shall come to pass, if they will not believe thee, neither hearken to the voice of the first sign, that they will believe the voice of the latter sign.
Sorry you said a lot of nothing.

Funny how you've already been deceived into not believing in a mark. Then again I doubt you will make it that far into the tribulation to take the mark.
 
Understandable - and yes not only is it digital currency but as it was released a few years ago the pope is stressing One World currency. One World currency will bring about most likely the One World government.

And what better way is there to track people? What better way is there to ensure no one can buy, sell, trade? Other than the microchip's scanning? All of an individuals information will pull up on the computer system. The usage of digital money _ washaterias and even car washes are becoming digital. Homes and autos are becoming digital - employment hiring and salaries paid are becoming digital. And some medical facilities patients have to do palm scanning as a form of ID.
That technology has been around for years. I use to have to have my hand scanned to allow the root-gate to spin and let me in. That instrument pretty much just looked at hand geometry that was linked to my badge.

Personally I think the computer systems...internet....will be pretty much destroyed by Rev 13 as chapter 8 is pretty nasty.
I think something like Musks Starlink satellites and quantum computers will be used.

And the microchips that are being used inhumans in the states Sweden and other places in the world contains quite a lot of information as well as access to employment, bank accounts, and medical Care among other things
I see that as a precursor....keep in mind a lot of people will already be dead by the time Rev 13 comes around. It won't be pretty.

......I'm looking forward to the pre-trib rapture.
 
That technology has been around for years. I use to have to have my hand scanned to allow the root-gate to spin and let me in. That instrument pretty much just looked at hand geometry that was linked to my badge.

Personally I think the computer systems...internet....will be pretty much destroyed by Rev 13 as chapter 8 is pretty nasty.
I think something like Musks Starlink satellites and quantum computers will be used.


I see that as a precursor....keep in mind a lot of people will already be dead by the time Rev 13 comes around. It won't be pretty.

......I'm looking forward to the pre-trib rapture.
Starlink satellites - quantum computers still system of computers.

Being able to control your phone, your computer, or any computerized device through your thoughts - just by thinking. The human brain is being wired to computers.

Benefits from medical purposes will be great. But it hasn't stopped there nor will it stop where it is.

The world is becoming closer and closer to a cashless society. The pope himself even supports a cashless society. Bringing us closer to a one world system - which eventually will bring about a One World government.
And I believe in post-rapture. I believe the church will be here _ Paul said that day **will not come until** there is a falling away first and that **man of sin be revealed** the son of perdition....... Paul also said in a moment in the twinkling of an eye, **at the last trump,** the trumpet show sounds and Revelation tells us that when the last trumpet sounds God is here _ the kingdoms of this world has become his kingdoms and that the kingdoms of the Earth are angry because of the wrath they see coming. But the church is split three different ways on that too pre or mid or post rapture.
 
The Beast system of Rev 13 is being built right around us....Kinda like the frog in a kettle...

Is the chip in the video the actual "mark"....I don't think so.....but it's one means of getting the world ready.

CBDC...Central Bank Digital Currency...is on the way and will eventually be tied into some sort of mark...ran by the One World Government powered by the Great Reset.....
No I don't believe in a actual mark / tattooing as some believe or anything similar to cattle branding. To me, Mark in this case means a system of identification.

And yes I've read a few years ago even the Pope supports a one world banking system. And I do believe one world banking system will lead to the One World government........ A cashless society that governments, especially the US has been headed in the direction of for a few decades now will initiate a need for humans to have computerized form of identification. Car washes washaterias are all becoming computerized. Employers- some already using chips as a way to identify and pay their employers. Automotive industry even homes are becoming computerized more each day.
Thank you for your comment.
 
Remember Satan is of this world system not will be is. It's not marketplace buying and sell of different signs rather than knowledge .

Jesus says it's a evil generation that does seek after a sign. believers have prophecy. sign for to represent unbelievers

Matthew 12:39 But he answered and said unto them, An evil and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given to it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas:

Not the sign that men recipe rather than the mark. Signs for those who believe not prophecy. Prophecy for the believer but the mark (marvel not rather than believing prophecy )

They must be distinguished from one another .Satan would have it all one and the same saying. . the mark is the sign and a sign is the mark

It all depend what you think the mark is . We know its not a sign and not the mark of the devil as to whatsoever he says comes to pass. The mark of a restless wanderer no gospel rest must be what he brings to pass .

The word mark is first used in Genesis establishing the meaning . It's not whosoever sees the tattoo of Cain as a sign

Genesis 4:15 And the Lord said unto him, Therefore whosoever slayeth Cain, vengeance shall be taken on him sevenfold. And the Lord set a mark upon Cain, lest any finding him should kill him

Philippians 3:14 I press toward the mark for the prize of the high calling of God in Christ Jesus.

Philippians 3:17 Brethren, be followers together of me, and mark them which walk so as ye have us for an ensample.

Revelation 14:9 And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand,. . . Not tattoo a sign

Forehead, or in his hand always speaks of the will of dying mankind. It is not if any man receives a sign tattoo as the number of dying mankind

Below the mark of God's word what he says comes to pass

Exodus 4:8 And it shall come to pass, if they will not believe thee, neither hearken to the voice of the first sign, that they will believe the voice of the latter sign.

The microchip is not a tattoo - though there are those that believe that the Mark of the Beast will be a literal tattoos.

And the mark of God will be put on his people in the end days also just as God put the mark on Cain that no one should kill him. What is the mark of God - no one knows but his Mark will be totally opposite of what the devils would be.

And was there a word for tattooing 6,000 in the Hebrew language over years ago? Not trying to be funny or smart I'm just asking.

And I add: I'm not saying the mark of the beast is not man's will or lack of will (in the minds and actions) _____ I am not saying that it is not actual tattooing _____ I believe it is the microchip that will will be used to initiate the mark of the beast - where all will have to have it to live in this world.

Am I right or am I wrong - I have no idea. I'm just stating what I believe, only time will tell and I may not be around to see the outcome.
 
The microchip is not a tattoo - though there are those that believe that the Mark of the Beast will be a literal tattoos.

And the mark of God will be put on his people in the end days also just as God put the mark on Cain that no one should kill him. What is the mark of God - no one knows but his Mark will be totally opposite of what the devils would be.

And was there a word for tattooing 6,000 in the Hebrew language over years ago? Not trying to be funny or smart I'm just asking.

And I add: I'm not saying the mark of the beast is not man's will or lack of will (in the minds and actions) _____ I am not saying that it is not actual tattooing _____ I believe it is the microchip that will will be used to initiate the mark of the beast - where all will have to have it to live in this world.

Am I right or am I wrong - I have no idea. I'm just stating what I believe, only time will tell and I may not be around to see the outcome.
A microchip world be a sign. John must of knew the meaning of the mark . . not a sign to wonder after in regard to electronic chips

No prophecy of the Bible informs us to "seek after a sign" rather than prophecy the living word

It just not seem to make biblical sense. Like in Revelations some teach as a sign. . thousands disappearing and reappearing a thousand years later as some sort of warning. .

literalizing the unseen spiritual understanding . Not mixing the temporal things seen (historical) with the eternal things of God not seen. Or a creation of Giants having sexual relations with humans in Genesis 6 .or again those who make baby noises falling back slain in the Spirit a self edifying witnesscalled tongues. It becomes a sign against them that do not believe prophecy

It's not a sign.. . (something the eye sees) . Mark of his word . . Not one sign was given to wonder after. . an evil unconverted generation (666)seeks after one Neither one good sign as a blessing , or another to anticipate a curse ) . The mark must be distinguished from a sign.

Believers have prophecy as it is written till the end of time sealed with seven seals Again signs are for those who believe not . No faith that could please God

Matthew 24:22-24King James Version And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened. Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not. For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

The elect does not seek after sign to wonder after . . they have prophecy sealed till the end of time

Remember Satan is the king of lying sign to wonder after. . it's his only voice as the father of lies..

Jesus told Nicodemus as one that did seek after a signs to wonder after in respect to the greatest miracle Born again. Jesus given words from the Holy Father loveningly commanded Nicodemus to marvel or wonder not. Wondering is not exercising the faith that comes from hearing God . . . . believing is

2 Thessalonians 2:9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,

Again lying signs to wonder after it's his only voice he uses to apose prophecy the living word. . Matthew 4 informs us what t is that makes lying signs disappear.

It can be seen when the ministry of the two began in Mathew 4. The Holy Father working in the Son of Man Jesus . .three times with three denoting the end of a matter. . it as it is written. It representing the power faith of Christ that worked in the Son of man Jesus

Mathew 4:7-11 Jesus said unto him, It is written again, Thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy God. Again, the devil taketh him up into an exceeding high mountain, and sheweth him all the kingdoms of the world, and the glory of them; And saith unto him, All these things will I give thee, if thou wilt fall down and worship me. Then saith Jesus (given words for the Father) unto him, Get thee hence, Satan: for it (faith of Christ the understanding of the Holy Father ) is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve.
Then the devil leaveth him, and, behold, angels came and ministered unto him.

Christ said to Cain. Mark by word what I say comes to pass . The mark of the word. Called the law of faith. "Let there be" and the testimony seen "was very good" .
 
Starlink satellites - quantum computers still system of computers.
I was speaking of the next gen of technology which is currently arriving.
Being able to control your phone, your computer, or any computerized device through your thoughts - just by thinking. The human brain is being wired to computers.
Elon Musk is working on that as we speak....
"Elon Musk’s brain-chip startup Neuralink achieved a significant milestone on Sunday, January 28, 2024, by implanting its first human patient with a brain-computer interface. Musk said on Monday the patient is recovering well and initial results are showing neuron spike detection." go to article
Benefits from medical purposes will be great. But it hasn't stopped there nor will it stop where it is.
Benefits "from medical purposes" will flow both ways. mRNA and what's in the jab is an example.
The world is becoming closer and closer to a cashless society. The pope himself even supports a cashless society. Bringing us closer to a one world system - which eventually will bring about a One World government.
The cashless society has been advancing. FedNow is just one of the steps.
And I believe in post-rapture. I believe the church will be here _ Paul said that day **will not come until** there is a falling away first and that **man of sin be revealed** the son of perdition.......
Yes, the rapture happens...and then the anti-christ is revealed. The church is currently faling away in many means. 🌈 🫃
Paul also said in a moment in the twinkling of an eye, **at the last trump,** the trumpet show sounds and Revelation tells us that when the last trumpet sounds God is here _ the kingdoms of this world has become his kingdoms and that the kingdoms of the Earth are angry because of the wrath they see coming. But the church is split three different ways on that too pre or mid or post rapture.
We know Jesus returns twice....once for the saints in the air then a second time where He stands on the Mt. of Olives.
Jesus arrives the first time the same way He left...in a cloud. During the actual earthly return Jesus is riding a white horse.
The Church isn't destined for the wrath of the tribulation and will be delivered from it.
If you don't want to be pre-trib, that's OK.
 
No I don't believe in a actual mark / tattooing as some believe or anything similar to cattle branding. To me, Mark in this case means a system of identification.
What does that look like? How will someone identify with that system when they want to purchase something?

Chapter 16 tells us....... malignant sores broke out on those who had the mark of the beast and worshiped its image. How does a system of identification allow this to happen?
 
I was speaking of the next gen of technology which is currently arriving.
Is it something John the prophet knew about ? Because he spoke in tongues he had no understanding .

Or he had no idea of the latest technology?But did know the difference between a sign and a mark .

What does that look like? How will someone identify with that system when they want to purchase something?

Chapter 16 tells us....... malignant sores broke out on those who had the mark of the beast and worshiped its image. How does a system of identification allow this to happen?

I would offer, something I have been looking at.

The key is when studying to look not the literal historical temporal alone without the eternal undering of faith Christ labor of love he mightily works in Christians . they must be mixed the gospel rest (Hebrew 4:1-2 ) Christians walk or can understand the mind of God, the unseen eternal things of God. . . made known by the temporal things

The mixing formula (2 Corinthians 4:18)must be applied if we are to walk by faith after the unseen thing of God and not by sight after the temporal dying things seen.

There will be no literal identifying sign .The last sign of Jonas was fulfilled by Jesus the Son of man believers have prophecy to the end of time

I would call it a valuable interpreting tool by which we can seek his approval (2 Timothy 2:15) rightly dividing prophecy which includes parables .
God not leaving us as orphans with no understanding of his mysteries has given Christians a key (2 Corinthians 4:18) to unlock the mysteries in parable's. Hiding the gospel understanding from natural unconverted man. . that I call "666.

2 Corinthians 4:18King James Version While we look not at the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen: for the things which are seen are temporal; but the things which are not seen are eternal.

In that way parables to not change the simplicity of the gospel. . they reveal the good news Simply "God saves dying sinners"Parables enrich by teaching how to walk by faith the unseen things of eternal God .without them Christ spoke not ..

You could say parables enrich like Honey the taste manna, the daily bread in the wilderness . Manna literally. What is it? I would call the daily bread of the hidden manna. As in Our Father in heaven give us this day our hidden manna teach us how to forgive.

You could say parables enrich like Honey the taste manna, the daily bread in the wilderness . Manna literally. What is it? I would call the daily bread of the hidden manna. As in Our Father in heaven give us this day our hidden manna teaches us how to forgive.

He also teaches us enough Mr. and Mrs , Honey Sweet tooth is enough to much and a trip to the latrine .LOL suffer now or suffer later, escape to him.
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A microchip world be a sign. John must of knew the meaning of the mark . . not a sign to wonder after in regard to electronic chips

No prophecy of the Bible informs us to "seek after a sign" rather than prophecy the living word

It just not seem to make biblical sense. Like in Revelations some teach as a sign. . thousands disappearing and reappearing a thousand years later as some sort of warning. .

literalizing the unseen spiritual understanding . Not mixing the temporal things seen (historical) with the eternal things of God not seen. Or a creation of Giants having sexual relations with humans in Genesis 6 .or again those who make baby noises falling back slain in the Spirit a self edifying witnesscalled tongues. It becomes a sign against them that do not believe prophecy

It's not a sign.. . (something the eye sees) . Mark of his word . . Not one sign was given to wonder after. . an evil unconverted generation (666)seeks after one Neither one good sign as a blessing , or another to anticipate a curse ) . The mark must be distinguished from a sign.

Believers have prophecy as it is written till the end of time sealed with seven seals Again signs are for those who believe not . No faith that could please God

Matthew 24:22-24King James Version And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened. Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not. For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

The elect does not seek after sign to wonder after . . they have prophecy sealed till the end of time

Remember Satan is the king of lying sign to wonder after. . it's his only voice as the father of lies..

Jesus told Nicodemus as one that did seek after a signs to wonder after in respect to the greatest miracle Born again. Jesus given words from the Holy Father loveningly commanded Nicodemus to marvel or wonder not. Wondering is not exercising the faith that comes from hearing God . . . . believing is

2 Thessalonians 2:9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,

Again lying signs to wonder after it's his only voice he uses to apose prophecy the living word. . Matthew 4 informs us what t is that makes lying signs disappear.

It can be seen when the ministry of the two began in Mathew 4. The Holy Father working in the Son of Man Jesus . .three times with three denoting the end of a matter. . it as it is written. It representing the power faith of Christ that worked in the Son of man Jesus

Mathew 4:7-11 Jesus said unto him, It is written again, Thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy God. Again, the devil taketh him up into an exceeding high mountain, and sheweth him all the kingdoms of the world, and the glory of them; And saith unto him, All these things will I give thee, if thou wilt fall down and worship me. Then saith Jesus (given words for the Father) unto him, Get thee hence, Satan: for it (faith of Christ the understanding of the Holy Father ) is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve.
Then the devil leaveth him, and, behold, angels came and ministered unto him.

Christ said to Cain. Mark by word what I say comes to pass . The mark of the word. Called the law of faith. "Let there be" and the testimony seen "was very good" .
Luke 21:25-26 tells us there will be *signs* https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Luke 21:25-26&version=KJV

Matthew 24:3 the disciples asked Jesus what is the *sign* of his coming ........ Verse 33 Jesus said when you see all these things know that it is near https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew 24&version=KJV

Prophecies being fulfilled are the signs that we as Christians should look out for.

Thank you for your conversation. You have expressed your belief as I have expressed mine. No need to go backwards and forwards have a blessed day.
 
You could say parables enrich like Honey the taste manna, the daily bread in the wilderness . Manna literally. What is it? I would call the daily bread of the hidden manna. As in Our Father in heaven give us this day our hidden manna teach us how to forgive.
If you need to go down this route...go there.

But Jesus literally died on a cross. It wasn't a symbol or mark.
 
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