Matthew 22:14

[Carbon]

Matthew 22,
11 “But when the king came in to look at the guests, he saw there a man who had no wedding garment. 12 And he said to him, ‘Friend, how did you get in here without a wedding garment?’ And he was speechless. 13 Then the king said to the attendants, ‘Bind him hand and foot and cast him into the outer darkness. In that place there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.’ 14 For many are called, but few are chosen.”


What does it mean to be called but few are chosen?

Thoughts?

 

[ReverendRV]

Matthew 22,
11 “But when the king came in to look at the guests, he saw there a man who had no wedding garment. 12 And he said to him, ‘Friend, how did you get in here without a wedding garment?’ And he was speechless. 13 Then the king said to the attendants, ‘Bind him hand and foot and cast him into the outer darkness. In that place there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.’ 14 For many are called, but few are chosen.”


What does it mean to be called but few are chosen?

Thoughts?

Many are Called, in several different Ways; this is the General Call to God. Few are Chosen, in only one Way; this is the Effectual Call of God...

 

[ChristB4us]

Matthew 22,
11 “But when the king came in to look at the guests, he saw there a man who had no wedding garment. 12 And he said to him, ‘Friend, how did you get in here without a wedding garment?’ And he was speechless. 13 Then the king said to the attendants, ‘Bind him hand and foot and cast him into the outer darkness. In that place there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.’ 14 For many are called, but few are chosen.”


What does it mean to be called but few are chosen?

Thoughts?

@ReverendRV & @preacher4truth

Not every saved believer will be found abiding in Him & His words as His disciples that will be ready for the Bridegroom for when He comes.

If we say the wedding garment is our faith in Him, then ask Him what can void faith in Him to be naked of our wedding garment?

Romans 4:13 For the promise, that he should be the heir of the world, was not to Abraham, or to his seed, through the law, but through the righteousness of faith. 14 For if they which are of the law be heirs, faith is made void, and the promise made of none effect: 15 Because the law worketh wrath: for where no law is, there is no transgression. KJV

Galatians 2:15 We who are Jews by nature, and not sinners of the Gentiles, 16 Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified. 17 But if, while we seek to be justified by Christ, we ourselves also are found sinners, is therefore Christ the minister of sin? God forbid. 18 For if I build again the things which I destroyed, I make myself a transgressor. 19 For I through the law am dead to the law, that I might live unto God. 20 I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me. 21 I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain. KJV

Galatians 3:1O foolish Galatians, who hath bewitched you, that ye should not obey the truth, before whose eyes Jesus Christ hath been evidently set forth, crucified among you? 2 This only would I learn of you, Received ye the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith? 3 Are ye so foolish? having begun in the Spirit, are ye now made perfect by the flesh? 4 Have ye suffered so many things in vain? if it be yet in vain. KJV

Galatians 5:1Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage. 2 Behold, I Paul say unto you, that if ye be circumcised, Christ shall profit you nothing. 3 For I testify again to every man that is circumcised, that he is a debtor to do the whole law. 4 Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace. 5 For we through the Spirit wait for the hope of righteousness by faith. KJV

Since circumcision is the smallest letter of the law and if a believer did that, he is required to do the whole law, what does making a commitment or a promise to God entails, but the biggest letter of the law. This is why it is simply written that the just shall live by faith in Him & nothing else from under the law for the power for how we are to follow Him as that power comes from Him and not by keeping a commitment or a promise as one under the law.

2 Timothy 3:1This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come. 2 For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, 3 Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good, 4 Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God; 5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.
Titus 1:16 They profess that they know God; but in works they deny him, being abominable, and disobedient, and unto every good work reprobate.
Matthew 15: 7 Ye hypocrites, well did Esaias prophesy of you, saying, 8 This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me. 9 But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men. 10 And he called the multitude, and said unto them, Hear, and understand: 11 Not that which goeth into the mouth defileth a man; but that which cometh out of the mouth, this defileth a man.... 18 But those things which proceed out of the mouth come forth from the heart; and they defile the man. 19 For out of the heart proceed evil thoughts, murders, adulteries, fornications, thefts, false witness, blasphemies: 20 These are the things which defile a man..........

Anyway, just one example of how works of iniquity can void faith in Him when we resort to our own power to do that which He said He will do for why we are to live by faith in Him and His words to us that HE will do the work of God in us.

John 6:28 Then said they unto him, What shall we do, that we might work the works of God? 29 Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent.

So believe Him that He will do His work in us to enable us to follow Him & thus wear that wedding garment by living by faith in Jesus Christ.

 

[brightfame52]

The Nation of Israel in General being Gods called out Covenant people, The Physical Seed of Abraham, yet within that Nation were Gods chosen, an election according to grace. The Nation for the sake of the remnant was called by means of all the national privileges they had, they had the Gospel preached to them in many shadows and types, but only the remnant understood the significance of the types and shadows that pointed them to the coming Messiah, Seed of woman, shiloh !

 

[ChristB4us]

The Nation of Israel in General being Gods called out Covenant people, The Physical Seed of Abraham, yet within that Nation were Gods chosen, an election according to grace. The Nation for the sake of the remnant was called by means of all the national privileges they had, they had the Gospel preached to them in many shadows and types, but only the remnant understood the significance of the types and shadows that pointed them to the coming Messiah, Seed of woman, shiloh !

Not every saved believer called will follow Him as His disciples.

John 8:30 As he spake these words, many believed on him. 31 Then said Jesus to those Jews which believed on him, If ye continue in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed; 32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free. 33 They answered him, We be Abraham's seed, and were never in bondage to any man: how sayest thou, Ye shall be made free? 34 Jesus answered them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whosoever committeth sin is the servant of sin. 35 And the servant abideth not in the house for ever: but the Son abideth ever. 36 If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed.

The consequence for not abiding in Him as His disciple is verse 6 thus signifying those that are not chosen among the called.

John 15:1I am the true vine, and my Father is the husbandman. 2 Every branch in me that beareth not fruit he taketh away: and every branch that beareth fruit, he purgeth it, that it may bring forth more fruit. 3 Now ye are clean through the word which I have spoken unto you. 4 Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, except it abide in the vine; no more can ye, except ye abide in me. 5 I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing.

6 If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned.

7 If ye abide in me, and my words abide in you, ye shall ask what ye will, and it shall be done unto you. 8 Herein is my Father glorified, that ye bear much fruit; so shall ye be my disciples. 9 As the Father hath loved me, so have I loved you: continue ye in my love. 10 If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love. 11 These things have I spoken unto you, that my joy might remain in you, and that your joy might be full.

12 This is my commandment, That ye love one another, as I have loved you. 13 Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends. 14 Ye are my friends, if ye do whatsoever I command you. 15 Henceforth I call you not servants; for the servant knoweth not what his lord doeth: but I have called you friends; for all things that I have heard of my Father I have made known unto you.

16 Ye have not chosen me, but I have chosen you, and ordained you, that ye should go and bring forth fruit, and that your fruit should remain: that whatsoever ye shall ask of the Father in my name, he may give it you.

17 These things I command you, that ye love one another.

It is not a loss of salvation but a loss of the first inheritance, hence not being partakers of the firstfruits of the resurrection. See post #4

The prodigal son may have given up his first inheritance for wild living and can never get it back as a chosen to be of the firstfruits of the resurrection, but he is still son to be resurrected after the great tribulation instead.

 

[ReverendRV]

You and Brightframe can have many conversations. Sometimes Forums can be about finding THAT sparring partner...

 

[ChristB4us]

You and Brightframe can have many conversations. Sometimes Forums can be about finding THAT sparring partner...

Hopefully the Lord is not allowing me to do that, but lead me away from debates as if I can convince any one of the truth by arguing for it.

There is this;

2 Timothy 2:24 And the servant of the Lord must not strive; but be gentle unto all men, apt to teach, patient, 25 In meekness instructing those that oppose themselves; if God peradventure will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth; 26 And that they may recover themselves out of the snare of the devil, who are taken captive by him at his will.

And then to avoid this below;

Galatians 5:14 For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. 15 But if ye bite and devour one another, take heed that ye be not consumed one of another. 16 This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh.

2 Corinthians 12:19 Again, think ye that we excuse ourselves unto you? we speak before God in Christ: but we do all things, dearly beloved, for your edifying. 20 For I fear, lest, when I come, I shall not find you such as I would, and that I shall be found unto you such as ye would not: lest there be debates, envyings, wraths, strifes, backbitings, whisperings, swellings, tumults: 21 And lest, when I come again, my God will humble me among you, and that I shall bewail many which have sinned already, and have not repented of the uncleanness and fornication and lasciviousness which they have committed.

I hope in the Lord to let me know & to lead me for when to let go and let God.

Titus 3:9 But avoid foolish questions, and genealogies, and contentions, and strivings about the law; for they are unprofitable and vain. 10 A man that is an heretick after the first and second admonition reject; 11 Knowing that he that is such is subverted, and sinneth, being condemned of himself.

1 Corinthians 3:5 Who then is Paul, and who is Apollos, but ministers by whom ye believed, even as the Lord gave to every man? 6 I have planted, Apollos watered; but God gave the increase. 7 So then neither is he that planteth any thing, neither he that watereth; but God that giveth the increase.

I shall hope in Him to help me share the talents He has given me to share in this forum and hope in Him for me to receive some talents that others have shared in this outreach forum for the edification of the body of Christ in this iron sharpen iron ministry of His.

 

[Marilyn C]

Matthew 22,
11 “But when the king came in to look at the guests, he saw there a man who had no wedding garment. 12 And he said to him, ‘Friend, how did you get in here without a wedding garment?’ And he was speechless. 13 Then the king said to the attendants, ‘Bind him hand and foot and cast him into the outer darkness. In that place there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.’ 14 For many are called, but few are chosen.”


What does it mean to be called but few are chosen?

Thoughts?

The Lord is speaking to His people of the nation of Israel. He is their kinsman-redeemer and that is illustrated in the book of Ruth. There are 4 requirements for a kinsman-redeemer and the Lord has fulfilled 3 of them. The last requirement is to `marry` - Boaz & Ruth, and for the Lord & Israel.

`called but few are chosen...` This refers to Israel being the ekklesia, called out ones, but eventually there will only be a few who receive Christ, as the nation. (Zech. 12: 7 - 10)

 

[Selah7]

Matthew 22,
11 “But when the king came in to look at the guests, he saw there a man who had no wedding garment. 12 And he said to him, ‘Friend, how did you get in here without a wedding garment?’ And he was speechless. 13 Then the king said to the attendants, ‘Bind him hand and foot and cast him into the outer darkness. In that place there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.’ 14 For many are called, but few are chosen.”


What does it mean to be called but few are chosen?

Thoughts?

Few are chosen because they were not elected before the foundation of the world.

 

[Selah7]

The Lord is speaking to His people of the nation of Israel. He is their kinsman-redeemer and that is illustrated in the book of Ruth. There are 4 requirements for a kinsman-redeemer and the Lord has fulfilled 3 of them. The last requirement is to `marry` - Boaz & Ruth, and for the Lord & Israel.

`called but few are chosen...` This refers to Israel being the ekklesia, called out ones, but eventually there will only be a few who receive Christ, as the nation. (Zech. 12: 7 - 10)

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but…

What then? Israel hath not obtained that which he seeketh for; but the election hath obtained it, and the rest were blinded (According as it is written, God hath given them the spirit of slumber, eyes that they should not see, and ears that they should not hear unto this day.

- Romans 11:7-8 (KJV)

The election is within all races, not only Israel. The election were not blinded. Why? because…

…we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose. For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren. Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified.

- Romans 8:28-30 (KJV)

 

[ChristB4us]

Matthew 22,
11 “But when the king came in to look at the guests, he saw there a man who had no wedding garment. 12 And he said to him, ‘Friend, how did you get in here without a wedding garment?’ And he was speechless. 13 Then the king said to the attendants, ‘Bind him hand and foot and cast him into the outer darkness. In that place there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.’ 14 For many are called, but few are chosen.”

What does it mean to be called but few are chosen?

Thoughts?

Those He has chosen out of the saved believers to be fruitful as His disciples to be of the elect; the firstfruits of the resurrection.

John 15:14 Ye are my friends, if ye do whatsoever I command you. 15 Henceforth I call you not servants; for the servant knoweth not what his lord doeth: but I have called you friends; for all things that I have heard of my Father I have made known unto you. 16 Ye have not chosen me, but I have chosen you, and ordained you, that ye should go and bring forth fruit, and that your fruit should remain: that whatsoever ye shall ask of the Father in my name, he may give it you. 17 These things I command you, that ye love one another.

John 15:1 I am the true vine, and my Father is the husbandman. 2 Every branch in me that beareth not fruit he taketh away: and every branch that beareth fruit, he purgeth it, that it may bring forth more fruit. 3 Now ye are clean through the word which I have spoken unto you. 4 Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, except it abide in the vine; no more can ye, except ye abide in me. 5 I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing. 6 If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned. 7 If ye abide in me, and my words abide in you, ye shall ask what ye will, and it shall be done unto you. 8 Herein is my Father glorified, that ye bear much fruit; so shall ye be my disciples.

 

[Odë:hgöd]

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Re: Matt 22:1-14

According to the text of the story, the wedding started out to as a private affair,
but later became open to the public, i.e. total strangers were welcome to attend
who didn't have to be the king's friends nor even his son's friends; it was very
open. We could say it was open to the whole world regardless of age, race, gender,
and/or religious preferences. That king was very determined to find people to help
his son celebrate and it was to the point where he didn't care who they were.
(Apparently his son felt the same way)

But there was a bit of a caveat. The whole world was invited to come; but only
those appropriately dressed were allowed inside.

There are establishments that require male patrons to wear a coat and tie, and
should any show up without them, some places maintain a closet of things that
men can borrow for the evening: free of charge; it's on the house. Now, seeing as
how the king instructed his servants to invite everyone they encountered regardless
of social status and/or income level, then he likely anticipated some folks showing
up who couldn't afford to clothe themselves properly.

This suggests to me that the errant guest refused the doorman's offer to loan
underprivileged guests appropriate garments, viz: the man was a wedding crasher
because he deliberately attempted to circumvent the dress code and that is very
probably why he was speechless when confronted, i.e. the man had no excuse.

I think this parable was meant to moderate a passage in Isaiah which says:

"And now The Lord speaks-- He who formed me in my mother's womb to be his
servant, who commissioned me to bring His people of Israel back to Him. The Lord
has honored me, and my God has given me strength. He says: You will do more
than restore the people of Israel to me. I will make you a light to the Gentiles, and
you will bring my salvation to the ends of the earth." (49:5-6)

Well; the ends of the earth today numbers around 7,980,686,300 souls. Of those,
only 32% are Christians. But not all are chosen because a portion of those 32% are
improperly clothed; so to speak.

NOTE: The tragedy of that parable is that there will be a number of Christians
severely disappointed upon discovering, too late, that they were in the correct
religion, but they were in it incorrectly. They came so close only to be culled from
the herd.
_

 

[Eleanor]

Matthew 22,
11 “But when the king came in to look at the guests, he saw there a man who had no wedding garment. 12 And he said to him, ‘Friend, how did you get in here without a wedding garment?’ And he was speechless. 13 Then the king said to the attendants, ‘Bind him hand and foot and cast him into the outer darkness. In that place there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.’ 14 For many are called, but few are chosen.”


What does it mean to be called but few are chosen?

Thoughts?

It's what the Reformers call the effectual vs. the ineffectual call.

.
Re: Matt 22:1-14

According to the text of the story, the wedding started out to as a private affair,
but later became open to the public, i.e. total strangers were welcome to attend
who didn't have to be the king's friends nor even his son's friends; it was very
open. We could say it was open to the whole world regardless of age, race, gender,
and/or religious preferences. That king was very determined to find people to help
his son celebrate and it was to the point where he didn't care who they were.
(Apparently his son felt the same way)

But there was a bit of a caveat. The whole world was invited to come; but only
those appropriately dressed were allowed inside.

There are establishments that require male patrons to wear a coat and tie, and
should any show up without them, some places maintain a closet of things that
men can borrow for the evening: free of charge; it's on the house. Now, seeing as
how the king instructed his servants to invite everyone they encountered regardless
of social status and/or income level, then he likely anticipated some folks showing
up who couldn't afford to clothe themselves properly.

This suggests to me that the errant guest refused the doorman's offer to loan
underprivileged guests appropriate garments, viz: the man was a wedding crasher
because he deliberately attempted to circumvent the dress code and that is very
probably why he was speechless when confronted, i.e. the man had no excuse.

I think this parable was meant to moderate a passage in Isaiah which says:

"And now The Lord speaks-- He who formed me in my mother's womb to be his
servant, who commissioned me to bring His people of Israel back to Him. The Lord
has honored me, and my God has given me strength. He says: You will do more
than restore the people of Israel to me. I will make you a light to the Gentiles, and
you will bring my salvation to the ends of the earth." (49:5-6)

Well; the ends of the earth today numbers around 7,980,686,300 souls. Of those,
only 32% are Christians. But not all are chosen because a portion of those 32% are
improperly clothed; so to speak.

NOTE: The tragedy of that parable is that there will be a number of Christians
severely disappointed upon discovering, too late, that they were in the correct
religion, but they were in it incorrectly. They came so close only to be culled from
the herd.
_

I see it as the third of three parables on the rejection of Israel for unbelief:
parable of the two sons, parable of the tenants and parable of the wedding banquet.

 

[Odë:hgöd]

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FAQ: What is meant by the outer darkness in Matt 22:1-14?

REPLY: It appears-- from comparing it's use in Matt 8:11-12 and Matt 25:14-30 --that
"outer darkness" isn't a place, rather, a state of mind characterized by the deepest
possible feelings of anguish and grief associated with loss.

It's akin to the day that God announced to Moses' people they were going to have
to stay in that awful Sinai outback until they were dead. They missed their
opportunity to enter the land of milk and honey and there was no way to regain it.

The people must've been pretty upset over that; no doubt they had all been joyfully
looking forward to a new life over there; and there was no use in praying about it
because God had made up His mind.

I've only experienced deep personal grief associated with irreversible loss but one
time; that was when my No.1 nephew passed away suddenly of natural causes at
the age of 51. I had held him in my arms upon returning home from three years in
the Army when he was only a couple of weeks old.

News of his passing has thus far been the only time in my 79 years that I actually
clenched my teeth, sobbing out of control, and choking, while clinging to a handrail
in the front room to keep from losing my balance and falling to the floor.
_

 

[ChristB4us]

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Re: Matt 22:1-14

According to the text of the story, the wedding started out to as a private affair,
but later became open to the public, i.e. total strangers were welcome to attend
who didn't have to be the king's friends nor even his son's friends; it was very
open. We could say it was open to the whole world regardless of age, race, gender,
and/or religious preferences. That king was very determined to find people to help
his son celebrate and it was to the point where he didn't care who they were.
(Apparently his son felt the same way)

But there was a bit of a caveat. The whole world was invited to come; but only
those appropriately dressed were allowed inside.

There are establishments that require male patrons to wear a coat and tie, and
should any show up without them, some places maintain a closet of things that
men can borrow for the evening: free of charge; it's on the house. Now, seeing as
how the king instructed his servants to invite everyone they encountered regardless
of social status and/or income level, then he likely anticipated some folks showing
up who couldn't afford to clothe themselves properly.

This suggests to me that the errant guest refused the doorman's offer to loan
underprivileged guests appropriate garments, viz: the man was a wedding crasher
because he deliberately attempted to circumvent the dress code and that is very
probably why he was speechless when confronted, i.e. the man had no excuse.

One can apply that, in order to be in that wedding, you have to go through that particular door; hence Jesus Christ; John 10:7-9

One can also apply that any work of the flesh as heresy is a work of the flesh, that denies Him, is voiding that wedding garment.

I think this parable was meant to moderate a passage in Isaiah which says:

"And now The Lord speaks-- He who formed me in my mother's womb to be his
servant, who commissioned me to bring His people of Israel back to Him. The Lord
has honored me, and my God has given me strength. He says: You will do more
than restore the people of Israel to me. I will make you a light to the Gentiles, and
you will bring my salvation to the ends of the earth." (49:5-6)

Well; the ends of the earth today numbers around 7,980,686,300 souls. Of those,
only 32% are Christians. But not all are chosen because a portion of those 32% are
improperly clothed; so to speak.

NOTE: The tragedy of that parable is that there will be a number of Christians
severely disappointed upon discovering, too late, that they were in the correct
religion, but they were in it incorrectly. They came so close only to be culled from
the herd.
_

When believers realize that Christianity is not a religion of what man can do but what God can do through Jesus Christ, they may find themselves wearing that wedding garment as we are by the grace of God, follow Him by faith as our Good Shepherd & friend to help us to follow Him daily.

 

[Matt5]

Matthew 22,
11 “But when the king came in to look at the guests, he saw there a man who had no wedding garment. 12 And he said to him, ‘Friend, how did you get in here without a wedding garment?’ And he was speechless. 13 Then the king said to the attendants, ‘Bind him hand and foot and cast him into the outer darkness. In that place there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.’ 14 For many are called, but few are chosen.”


What does it mean to be called but few are chosen?

Thoughts?

Independence Day, the movie.

During a planetary takeover, get out of the way or die. The arrival of Jesus for the wedding party is a full planetary takeover. The takeover is mostly accomplished via harvests and the mark. Harvests are nuclear wars that hit key Christian areas first, and without warning. The chosen get out of the way and avoid the mark. Jesus' army arrives for mopping up.

1 Peter 4:17 For the time has come for judgment to begin at the house of God; and if it begins with us first, what will be the end of those who do not obey the gospel of God?

If you can read the news, then you know the harvests brewing in the background right now. First America, and later Europe.

1 Peter 4:18 Now “If the righteous one is scarcely saved, Where will the ungodly and the sinner appear?”

Notice that the righteous are scarcely saved? Because they won't get out of the way.

Israel got wiped out. Why not Christians? Clearly, the West is losing its mind.

"The called" are Christians. The chosen are the Christians that manage to survive to the end.

 

[Rella]

The Lord is speaking to His people of the nation of Israel. He is their kinsman-redeemer and that is illustrated in the book of Ruth. There are 4 requirements for a kinsman-redeemer and the Lord has fulfilled 3 of them. The last requirement is to `marry` - Boaz & Ruth, and for the Lord & Israel.

`called but few are chosen...` This refers to Israel being the ekklesia, called out ones, but eventually there will only be a few who receive Christ, as the nation. (Zech. 12: 7 - 10)

I woke up this AM with this verse in my mind and then re-read the parable again.

I am trying to rationalize it, with what you say here (which I agree with in context) and pre-determinism.

 

[Marilyn C]

I woke up this AM with this verse in my mind and then re-read the parable again.

I am trying to rationalize it, with what you say here (which I agree with in context) and pre-determinism.

That`s good you are considering it. As to `pre-determinism,` - that just means that God planned the purpose beforehand. It does not mean that God picked out each person before hand.

 

[Marilyn C]

———
but…

What then? Israel hath not obtained that which he seeketh for; but the election hath obtained it, and the rest were blinded (According as it is written, God hath given them the spirit of slumber, eyes that they should not see, and ears that they should not hear unto this day.

- Romans 11:7-8 (KJV)

The election is within all races, not only Israel. The election were not blinded. Why? because…

…we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose. For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren. Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified.

- Romans 8:28-30 (KJV)

Hi Selah,

I must have missed your post, so sorry.

`For Jacob my servant`s sake, and Israel my ELECT.` (Isa. 45: 4)

`Concerning the gospel they are enemies for your sake, but concerning the election they are beloved for the sake of the fathers. For the gifts and calling of God are irrevocable. ` (Rom. 11: 28 & 29)

Rom. 8: 28 - 30 is speaking of the New Man, the Body of Christ. They also are ELECT.

`...And have put on the new man who is renewed in knowledge according to the image of Him who created him, where there is neither Greek nor Jew, circumcised, nor uncircumcised, barbarian, Scythian, slave nor free, but Christ is all in all. Therefore, as the ELECT of God, holy and beloved...` (Col. 3: 10 - 12)