Eve's Name

[Josheb]

Eve's name.

According to Genesis 3:20....

Genesis 3:20
Now the man called his wife's name Eve, because she was the mother of all the living.

Eve wasn't named until after the fall (but before they couple were discharged from the garden). What are we to make of that? Was she nameless prior to Gen. 3:20? Did the man and the woman call each other "man" and "woman" before then?

 

[3 Resurrections]

Eve wasn't named until after the fall (but before they couple were discharged from the garden). What are we to make of that?

Every time a name is given in scripture, this implies a sort of control claimed by that person over a child, a city, a nation, an institution, etc.. Originally when God gave the beasts to Adam to have dominion over, He brought them to Adam for him to name, as a symbol of that dominion the original couple were to have over the creation.

One of the more unfortunate results of the fall was having a fallen Adam trying to "rule" over the woman and to control her by giving her a name, just as he had named all the beasts which God had brought before him. God fore-warned Eve that a fallen Adam would be acting in this overbearing way towards her.

 

[fastfredy0]

A possibility: Just because Gen 3:20 comes after the verses about the fall of man does not necessarily mean Adam named her Eve after the fall. The verses don't have to be in chronological order.

 

[LeviR]

Eve's name.

According to Genesis 3:20....

Genesis 3:20
Now the man called his wife's name Eve, because she was the mother of all the living.

Eve wasn't named until after the fall (but before they couple were discharged from the garden). What are we to make of that? Was she nameless prior to Gen. 3:20? Did the man and the woman call each other "man" and "woman" before then?

Adam was given to name all of the beast of the field. Eve was a real beast.

But she was bone of his bone and flesh of his flesh. Therefore when a man takes a wife, she ought to be the same type as he. Human beast.

 

[Mr GLee]

Both real beasts . . . Yes dear Rrrrr. . .LOL

Eve. . .literally "a living being," or "breath of life"

Adam literally "the one formed from the ground"

Adam represents Christ not seen. Eve represent His bride, seen. Both used to represent the priesthood of believers using Moses and Aaron

Adam failed to protect Eve with true prophecy. They both believed the oral tradition of false prophecy ."Neither shall you touch" A violation of the law not to add or subtract even one word It can change the authority of the whole.

Satan's weapon of warfare. The two building blocks of false pride . Lust of the flesh in anxious anticipation of seeing that hid in the center of the parable. tree of eternal life The lust of the eye moved them to touch having not died they both ate the fruit of death . (almonds) .

1 John 2:16 For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world.

The Priesthood of believers sends them out two, a family, by two, a family .

Exodus 7King James Version7 And the Lord said unto Moses (Adam) , See, I have made thee a god to Pharaoh: and Aaron (Eve) thy brother shall be thy prophet. Thou shalt speak all that I command thee: and Aaron (Eve the bride) thy brother shall speak unto Pharaoh, that he send the children of Israel out of his land

 

[Josheb]

Every time a name is given in scripture, this implies a sort of control claimed by that person over a child, a city, a nation, an institution, etc.. Originally when God gave the beasts to Adam to have dominion over, He brought them to Adam for him to name, as a symbol of that dominion the original couple were to have over the creation.

One of the more unfortunate results of the fall was having a fallen Adam trying to "rule" over the woman and to control her by giving her a name, just as he had named all the beasts which God had brought before him. God fore-warned Eve that a fallen Adam would be acting in this overbearing way towards her.

Lemme make sure I'm understanding that correctly. Adam naming the woman Eve implies some control of Adam over Eve (and by implication control of males over females?)

 

[Josheb]

Adam was given to name all of the beast of the field. Eve was a real beast.

But she was bone of his bone and flesh of his flesh. Therefore when a man takes a wife, she ought to be the same type as he. Human beast.

Why then was she not named immediately following her becoming bone of his bone and flesh of his flesh? Is it being suggested every man should (re-)name his wife after he becomes her husband?

 

[LeviR]

Why then was she not named immediately following her becoming bone of his bone and flesh of his flesh? Is it being suggested every man should (re-)name his wife after he becomes her husband?

It seems that after the punishments were handed down and Adam was banished from the tree of life, that life would have to come from the woman instead.

 

[Josheb]

It seems that after the punishments were handed down and Adam was banished from the tree of life, that life would have to come from the woman instead.

Thanks. How does that a) inform what her name was beforehand, b) explain her not having a name beforehand, and c) explain her being given a name by Adam only after their individual and collaborative disobedience? She was always going to be the one from whom life came either way. Is it being suggested the life that came from Eve is somehow comparable to the life that came/comes from the tree of life? Or that Adam was misguided in thinking his wife would/could replace the tree of life? That would imply baby humans came from the tree of life. That would further imply Adam and Eve could eat the babies because they were permitted to eat the fruit from the tree of life prior to their banishment.

 

[LeviR]

Thanks. How does that a) inform what her name was beforehand, b) explain her not having a name beforehand, and c) explain her being given a name by Adam only after their individual and collaborative disobedience? She was always going to be the one from whom life came either way. Is it being suggested the life that came from Eve is somehow comparable to the life that came/comes from the tree of life? Or that Adam was misguided in thinking his wife would/could replace the tree of life? That would imply baby humans came from the tree of life. That would further imply Adam and Eve could eat the babies because they were permitted to eat the fruit from the tree of life prior to their banishment.

He called her woman because she was his wife. The two were joined together.
I believe Adam called her “life”(Eve) because they were banished from the tree of life.
If man was to receive the life offered by the tree of life, which meant eternal life, it would have to come from Eve.
When Eve had Cain she said, “I have acquired a man from the LORD.”.
I suspect Eve thought that Cain was from the LORD, and that through him would come redemption.

 

[LeviR]

@Josheb

Now Adam knew Eve his wife, and she conceived and bore Cain, and said, “I have acquired a man from the LORD.”

An interesting thing about what Eve said there. It might be translated as “I have acquired a man with the Lord”.
Seems to be the literal.

“Together with the LORD I have gotten a son”

 

[Mr GLee]

He called her woman because she was his wife. The two were joined together.
I believe Adam called her “life”(Eve) because they were banished from the tree of life.
If man was to receive the life offered by the tree of life, which meant eternal life, it would have to come from Eve.
When Eve had Cain she said, “I have acquired a man from the LORD.”.
I suspect Eve thought that Cain was from the LORD, and that through him would come redemption.

The hidden tree parable .

Remember without parables Christ the tree of life spoke not. . . hiding the spiritual understanding from the world.

Eve was used to introduce the weaker vessel or position not person .A priestess. after the order Exodus 7:1-2 .Moses as if he was God as Adam and Aaron his brother the prophet priest to represent the bride, Eve.

Adam who represented Christ not seen. Adam alone received the prophecy "thou shall not eat"

As a savior higher position Adam failed to convey the prophecy "do not eat or you will die" .Both seduced by the spirit of lust the anti-christ .

The spirit of false pride the father of lies false prophecy neither shall you touch

1 John 2:16 For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world

Lust of the flesh drew them to the center and the lust of the eyes, moved them to touch and the pride of life, they ate .and lost innocence . The same lust spoken of if a man even look with lust they have sinned. Touching only confirms

 

[Josheb]

@Josheb

Now Adam knew Eve his wife, and she conceived and bore Cain, and said, “I have acquired a man from the LORD.”

An interesting thing about what Eve said there. It might be translated as “I have acquired a man with the Lord”.
Seems to be the literal.

“Together with the LORD I have gotten a son”

Relevance?

 

[Josheb]

He called her woman because she was his wife. The two were joined together.
I believe Adam called her “life”(Eve) because they were banished from the tree of life.
If man was to receive the life offered by the tree of life, which meant eternal life, it would have to come from Eve.
When Eve had Cain she said, “I have acquired a man from the LORD.”.
I suspect Eve thought that Cain was from the LORD, and that through him would come redemption.

You're operating under the connotative definition of "chavvah," not the denotative definition. Denotatively the word means "breathe" or "live," not "life." In other words, the person who'd help bring death into the world was named "live," not "life." Even more fundamentally, Adam was naming her his living person, not God's. As another poster has already pointed out, to name a person or thing is to assert a certain authority or dominion over that thing or person. Therefore, it may not be a good thing that ha'adam named le'issah "live" or "life," especially if he meant Eve to replace the tree of life. That act would then be considered an act of idolatry (piling on to the already implicit idolatrous act of choosing his will over God's when he disobeyed God. I think you're on more solid ground when focusing on the two having been (previously) made together (as another poster has asserted). Perhaps Eve did think Cain came from God (which is true) but thinking he might be a/the redeemer would be another act of idolatry. She'd have to think and believe he was the tree of life outside of the garden from which they'd just been banned for the express purpose of NOT partaking of the tree of life. She'd have to assume she could produce a tree of life herself (which would be yet another act of idolatry). There's another layer to this and that would be the premise the child came from God after she'd had sex, which is not the case with the incarnation. There's a lot of speculation growing in and from this premise Adam and Eve (one, the other, or both) believed they could produce redemptive life.

Since scripture itself is silent answering the question, the answer to this op's inquiry cannot escape speculation, but to what degree is that speculation reasonable and firmly rooted in a sound exegesis of scripture? That's what we should all be asking ourselves. Lot's of good stuff here, @LeviR, but I think there is a better answer.

 

[Mr GLee]

Relevance?

It would seem they were hoping the first born Cain was him that would redeem. They saw the vanity and named the second born (God's choice) Abel meaning vanity .

Cain murdered the first second born. To emphasize a person must be born again God used Enos meaning the man, another second born . The second time. . then born again mankind began to seek our invisible Father

It would seem two represents God has spoken. By the witness of one no judgment .

 

[Mr GLee]

You're operating under the connotative definition of "chavvah," not the denotative definition. Denotatively the word means "breathe" or "live," not "life." In other words, the person who'd help bring death into the world was named "live," not "life." Even more fundamentally, Adam was naming her his living person, not God's. As another poster has already pointed out, to name a person or thing is to assert a certain authority or dominion over that thing or person. Therefore, it may not be a good thing that ha'adam named le'issah "live" or "life," especially if he meant Eve to replace the tree of life. That act would then be considered an act of idolatry (piling on to the already implicit idolatrous act of choosing his will over God's when he disobeyed God. I think you're on more solid ground when focusing on the two having been (previously) made together (as another poster has asserted). Perhaps Eve did think Cain came from God (which is true) but thinking he might be a/the redeemer would be another act of idolatry. She'd have to think and believe he was the tree of life outside of the garden from which they'd just been banned for the express purpose of NOT partaking of the tree of life. She'd have to assume she could produce a tree of life herself (which would be yet another act of idolatry). There's another layer to this and that would be the premise the child came from God after she'd had sex, which is not the case with the incarnation. There's a lot of speculation growing in and from this premise Adam and Eve (one, the other, or both) believed they could produce redemptive life.

Since scripture itself is silent answering the question, the answer to this op's inquiry cannot escape speculation, but to what degree is that speculation reasonable and firmly rooted in a sound exegesis of scripture? That's what we should all be asking ourselves. Lot's of good stuff here, @LeviR, but I think there is a better answer.

Denotatively the word means "breathe" or "live,". . . breath of life.

Genesis 2:7 And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.

In other words, the person who needed help bring death into the world was named death. It will be cast into the fiery judgment

Both believed the false prophecy "nether shall you touch".

The lust of the flesh drew them to the center, when they did see lust of the eye they touched and did not die. Both ate the fruit of false prophecy. The fruit of false pride .

Adam failed to protect Eve from false prophecy (neither shall you touch) Virtue fell.

Believers can look with the eyes of ones new born again heart. Christ can faithfully restore virtue.

 

[Josheb]

It would seem they were hoping the first born Cain was him that would redeem.

Another poster suggested the same.

I would ask for the evidence proving that speculation but that has nothing to do with the question asked in this op. The premise assumes they thought of redemption and further assumed the first sinner could provide a redeemer. Just because they'd been told the seed of a woman would crush the serpent's head does not mean they grasped redemption or took that violence to be redemptive. I've bashed the heads of many snakes on many rocks, and it hasn't redeemed me from sin once. Any redemption she foresaw would most likely be that of 1 Timothy 2:15, not Calvary.

None of which explains why she was named after the fall and not beforehand.

 

[Josheb]

Denotatively the word means "breathe" or "live,". . . breath of life.

Yes, which would be a reference backwards to the creation account of Adam and Eve's own creation. That would be another idolatry if Adam was in any way implying she was able to make, or help make, a human being via the (God's) breath of life.

Genesis 2:7 And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.

In other words, the person who needed help bring death into the world was named death. It will be cast into the fiery judgment

Both believed the false prophecy "nether shall you touch".

The lust of the flesh drew them to the center, when they did see lust of the eye they touched and did not die. Both ate the fruit of false prophecy. The fruit of false pride .

Adam failed to protect Eve from false prophecy (neither shall you touch) Virtue fell.

Believers can look with the eyes of ones new born again heart. Christ can faithfully restore virtue.

Noone of which explains why she was named after the fall and not beforehand.

 

[3 Resurrections]

Lemme make sure I'm understanding that correctly. Adam naming the woman Eve implies some control of Adam over Eve (and by implication control of males over females?)

Adam naming the woman tells us that God's warning to Eve was coming true - that Adam as a husband would try to rule over her. This was not God's desire for marital relations, nor for gender relations either. But sin always produces death of relations between people, unfortunately.

 

[Mr GLee]

Yes, which would be a reference backwards to the creation account of Adam and Eve's own creation. That would be another idolatry if Adam was in any way implying she was able to make, or help make, a human being via the (God's) breath of life.

Not sure what u are trying to say?

Children are a gift form the lord .the breath of spirit life .