Does God require our obedience for salvation?

[Carbon]

Does God require our obedience for salvation?

Adam and Eve blew it. So, God did require obedience, no?
Does He still require obedience?

 

[John Bauer]

Yes—which Christ rendered flawlessly.

 

[Carbon]

Yes—which Christ rendered flawlessly.

Awesome answer! Amen brother!

 

[Carbon]

Yes—which Christ rendered flawlessly.

Thanks be to God.

Yes, all the conditions of the covenant were laid on him and fulfilled by him. The covenant of grace is absolute and not conditional to us.

All that remains for it to be accomplished is the fulfillment of the promises unto him and his spiritual seed (the elect). It would have been the same in the first covenant if Adam had fulfilled it.

 

[Fred]

Does God require our obedience for salvation?

Acts 5:32
And we are witnesses of these things; and so is the Holy Spirit, whom God hath given to those who obey Him.

Hebrews 5:9
And being made perfect, He became the source of eternal salvation unto all those who obey Him;

 

[John Bauer]

Awesome answer! Amen brother!

I think of that wealthy ruler who came to Jesus asking how to inherit eternal life (Matt 19:16-22; Mark 10:17-22; Luke 18:18-23). Jesus replied, "Keep the commendments"—and their exchange shows just how impossible that truly is. The man thought he had been obeying the commendments, so Jesus responded, "Sell everything you have, give the proceeds to the poor (and you will have treasure in heaven), and then follow me."

By walking away sorrowful, he proved that he had actually been breaking the entire law. He chose his wealth over following Christ, so he failed to love God more than himself, and he hoarded rather than helped, so he failed to love his neighbor as himself.

If even someone like that—morally upright, religiously devout, socially respected, and materially successful—falls short of the kingdom, then who can possibly be saved?

Jesus gives the answer: "With man this is impossible, but with God all things are possible."

Perfect obedience to the law of God throughout the entire scope of one's life is what's required to be saved—and only Christ did that, the merits of which belong to all those in him.

 

[Eleanor]

I think of that wealthy ruler who came to Jesus asking how to inherit eternal life (Matt 19:16-22; Mark 10:17-22; Luke 18:18-23). Jesus replied, "Keep the commendments"—and their exchange shows just how impossible that truly is. The man thought he had been obeying the commendments, so Jesus responded, "Sell everything you have, give the proceeds to the poor (and you will have treasure in heaven), and then follow me."
By walking away sorrowful, he proved that he had actually been breaking the entire law. He chose his wealth over following Christ, so he failed to love God more than himself, and he hoarded rather than helped, so he failed to love his neighbor as himself.

If even someone like that—morally upright, religiously devout, socially respected, and materially successful—falls short of the kingdom, then who can possibly be saved?
Jesus gives the answer: "With man this is impossible, but with God all things are possible."
Perfect obedience to the law of God throughout the entire scope of one's life is what's required to be saved—and only Christ did that, the merits of which belong to all those in him.

What about salvation, since Abraham and long before the Ten Commandments, is by faith (Ge 15:5-6, Eph 2:8-9, Ro 4:1-5) rather than obedience?

The law of Moses was not given for salvation, which has been by faith since Abraham. The law was given simply to reveal sin (Ro 3:20).

 

[Hazelelponi]

What about salvation, since Abraham and long before the Ten Commandments, is by faith (Ge 15:5-6, Eph 2:8-9, Ro 4:1-5) rather than obedience?

The law of Moses was not given for salvation, which has been by faith since Abraham. The law was given simply to reveal sin (Ro 3:20).

Love your point that salvation is by faith since Abraham Gen. 15:6, was looking forward to the promise in faith, and the law reveals sin Rom. 3:20—amen! To add, “law” contextually means the Torah (Pentateuch), moral law (e.g., Ten Commandments), or 613 ceremonial laws, (distinct from rabbinic “fences.”) Jesus, our Messiah, fulfilled all three perfectly Matt. 5:17, bearing the covenant curses on the cross Gal. 3:13 to bring us, His elect, into the New Covenant Heb. 8:6. By God’s choice, the Spirit ensures our perseverance Phil. 1:6, so while we seek to live by His morality and covenant distinctives, there’s no condemnation for our failures Rom. 8:1. In Christ there is always forgiveness if we ask 1 John 1:8-10.