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Do we contribute in any way in order for our sins to be blotted out?

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Keiw1 said:
Jesus death covers those who do this-Acts 3:19--you see it takes repentance and turning around to get sin blotted out--so no it is not covered automatically for anyone.
Is repentance one of the works of the law/flesh whereby our sins are legally forgiven?

Keiw1 said yes, I say, that's another gospel packaged and wrapped as the gospel of Jesus Christ. That may be the doctrine of the Jehovah Witnesses, but it falls under the curse of God.

Keiw1 said:
so no it is not covered automatically for anyone.
The sins of those who were ordained to eternal life are covered freely by grace, through the redemption that is in Jesus Christ.

Consider with me: If all our sins be legally pardoned, then we need not pray for pardon of them ever again, as Matt. 6.

By pardon in Matt. 6, we are to understand the manifestation of pardon, the assurance and enjoyment of pardon in the conscience, the effect is here put for the cause. It must be so understood, because there is no pardon but this now attainable, therefore not to be prayed for. For seeing Christ will die no more, "there remaineth no more sacrifice for sin," Hebrews 10:26. It's in vain for any to pray for the pardon of the remission of that sin; which is not remitted before in Christ, Hebrews 10:18; 2nd Corinthains 5:19.

There IS that which attends the act of sin, which darkens, sads and clouds the soul's peace, (though it ought not so to do) which we are to pray to God to prevent or remove from us~ David, when he was converted back to fellowship did thus pray.

Some will object: Unbelievers are still in their sins, and therefore they are not justified. Answer: The elect are in their sins visibly, until they believe, and declare it by good works. They have sin in them and yet, they are free from sin. They are charged with sin, and yet they are free from all charge, Romans 8:33, and clean from all sin. Yet, he does sin and he cannot sin. This is a mystery to many: They have sin, 1st John 1:8,10; Ezekiel 16:8, they are charged with sin, James 5:17; Galatians 2:11-14. Yet, they are free from sin, Isaiah 53:5,6; 2nd Corinthains 5:21; SoS 4:7; 1st John 4:17. "They cannot sin," 1st John 3:9.

This is a mystery when Christ said, "A little while, and ye shall see me, and a little while, ye shall not see me. They said, What is this that he saith? we cannot tell what it is that he saith," John16:16-18. Shall, and shall not was a contradiction in their understandings: so will what I say be to many.

Some will object and say: Men's sins are not forgiven till they be redeemed from a vain conversation.

Then no man's sins are forgiven though they believe, and so cannot enjoy forgiveness of sin in this life, seeing every act of sin is a branch, and so a part of a vain conversation, and "in many things we sin all." Then David, notwithstanding he was converted and enjoyed the pardon of his sins, Psalms 51:12, yet he was not delivered from a vain conversation, as appeared in the matter of Bathsheba, and Uriah. And, if our justification and remission of sin did depend upon our holywalking, then folks like you do well to teach justification by works.

Some will object: All men are by nature children of wrath, and under the curse till they believe, Ephesians 2:3.

The death of the Law over God's elect grant all the elect are so by nature ONLY, under a state of wrath and curse, and they had perished in it, had not Jesus Christ by his death redeemed them out of that state. And although they were so by nature, yet at the same time they were also sons of grace and love. By nature accursed, by grace in election of grace sure to escape it, and blessed. By wrath, I understand is meant the curse of the Law, the punishment due to sin. By nature I understand the state of nature~ the state and condition of man by reason of Adam's fall, for all men were considered in him, and by his fall he made them all sinners, Romans 5:18. So, all the elect were considered in Christ, ( Ephesians 1:4 ) who by his death, did free all the elect from this fall of sin and death; so as never since Christ's death, none of the elect were under that state of wrath or curse, nor indeed could possible be for these Reasons.1) Because then "Christ redeemed them from under the Law," Galatians 4:4,5. "Thou hast redeemed us by thy blood," Revelation 5:9. "Christ was made under the Law," that we might be taken from under it. "We are the children of the free woman," Galatians 4:26,31. "We are delivered from the Law, wherein we were held:" Rom. 7:1, etc. "Now we know, that whatsoever the Law saith, it saith to them that are under the Law," Rom. 3:19. But we now are "not under the Law," therefore it has nothing to say to us, we "are under grace,"Rom. 6:14.2) Because Christ, by His death, put an end to the Law, the Law was not to last any longer then till Christ came; "The Law was added till the seed should come," Galatians 3:19. "Christ is the end of the Law:" Romans 10:4. It was never in force against any of God's elect since Christ's death. "We are freed from the Law by the body of Christ," Romans 7:4. Christ in"his flesh did abolish the Law of Commandments:" Ephesians 2:15,16; Colossians 2:13,14. "Now we are delivered from the Law," Romans 7:6. "Against such there is no law:" Galatians 5:23. If the Son shall make you as free in your consciences, as the elect are free in Him, you shall see, and say you were free indeed, John 8.3) Because the Law is dead to us, and we to it, "As a woman is freed from the law of her husband if he be dead:" so are we from the law. "Wherefore my brethren, we are become dead to the law by the body of Christ, that we should be married to another, even to him,that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter," Romans 7:1-7. This new husband is better than the old. Welcome Christ, and farewell Law. Now we have nothing to do with the Law, nor the Law with us, "Our old man is crucified with him," Romans 6:6. "He that is dead is freed from sin:" v.7. "We are dead with Christ," v.8.4) Because there is none of Moses' law now in force, to the elect, with curses to be under, no law, no transgression, no curse, no penalty in force now. For when the Law ceased, the curse of the Law ceased also with it. The Law said "Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them," Galatians 3:10

So, if you believe there are certain works a sinner must do in order to have his sins blotted out, then in your repentance make sure you cover all sins: in word, deeds and thoughts and that continually every second of every day of living in this world~btw, that is impossible, and the reason why, is all live in a body of sin and death.
 
If a baby is born, can it refuse to start breathing? Has it the right and power to will itself to NOT DRAW that first breath? Technically, no. We are biologically programmed with involuntary responses ... like breathing. This does not mean that sometimes, something can go wrong (internal or external). Perhaps the baby was born too soon and his/her lungs are not yet formed and capable of breath. Sometimes an obstruction can prevent the baby from taking that first breath. Whatever the cause, a newborn that does not start to breathe ... very quickly dies.

Why this morbid topic, you wonder? It is instructive when it comes to our NEW BIRTH. We are born a new creation. We are "born again" or "born from above" by the Holy Spirit ... that word "Spirit" also means "Breath". So a "New Creation" must have "Breath/Spirit" to be alive just as the newborn baby MUST take that first breath to live. REPENTANCE (the thing we are so concerned with) is nothing more and nothing less than "turning" from the old creation to the new creation. Without the Spirit, it is impossible, with the Spirit, it is impossible NOT TO (as involuntary as breathing for the newborn).

So the question is: ARE YOU BREATHING? [metaphorically speaking] Is the Spirit in you and are you a new creation? If you are "breathing", then you can be certain that you took a "first breath". To worry over whether the Spirit will choose to involuntarily change the person from within, is like worrying about whether the infant will choose to breathe or not.

Ephesians 2:
1 And you were dead in your trespasses and sins 2 in which you previously walked according to the ways of this world, according to the ruler of the power of the air, the spirit now working in the disobedient. 3 We too all previously lived among them in our fleshly desires, carrying out the inclinations of our flesh and thoughts, and we were by nature children under wrath as the others were also. 4 But God, who is rich in mercy, because of his great love that he had for us, 5 made us alive with Christ even though we were dead in trespasses. You are saved by grace! 6 He also raised us up with him and seated us with him in the heavens in Christ Jesus, 7 so that in the coming ages he might display the immeasurable riches of his grace through his kindness to us in Christ Jesus. 8 For you are saved by grace through faith, and this is not from yourselves; it is God’s gift —  9 not from works, so that no one can boast. 10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared ahead of time for us to do.

... God has it covered! [v.4-5 comes before v.8-9, which comes before v.10]
 
... God has it covered! [v.4-5 comes before v.8-9, which comes before v.10]
It does indeed come before 8,9~but, verses 8,9 reveals to us how God can be rich in mercy toward sinners! Ephesians 2:7-9~"That in the ages to come he might shew the exceeding riches of his grace in his kindness toward us through Christ Jesus. For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast."

Very few understand Ephesains 2:8,9, very few! Ephesians 2:8,9 is to be understood as a metonymy for Christ's faith.

In the ages to come, God will show forth the exceeding riches of his grace in his kindness toward us through Christ Jesus.

God's exceeding grace provided for us eternal salvation through the life of faith and obedience of his dear Son.
This IS what Paul is saying when he clearly said, for by grace are you saved through faith; and that NOT OF YOURSELVES: It IS the gift of God. This is the truth of the gospel of Jesus Christ. PAul said the same thing in Galatians 2 where he addresses the true gospel and reveals it to us as he exposes all false gospels that folks have been bewitched in believing. that falls under the works of the law, or, ANY COMMANDMENT were man has an active part in.

Galatians 2:20,21~"I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith OF the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me. I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain."

Truly the same truth taught in Ephesians 2~we were crucified WITH Christ ~In Ephesians 2 it said: And hath raised us up together, and made us sit together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus:" The elect were chosen IN Christ from the foundation of the world~God has never view us OUT OF CHRIST, we have been members of his flesh from conception on.... in the eternal purposes' of God. Read Psalm 139. Christ was the head of his seed and we the members thereof. All he did, was as though WE DID IT, When he was put to death, so were we legally speaking. He he arose from the dead, SO DID WE, where he now sits in the heavenly places, SO DO WE as far as God is concerned!

This being said, the faith spoken of in Ephesians 2:8,9 is not our personal but Christ's faith, and ours legally through the election of pure grace. Selah! Where then is the boasting? It is excluded 100%! All glory and praise be to the Lamb of God !
 
Consider with me: If all our sins be legally pardoned, then we need not pray for pardon of them ever again, as Matt. 6.
Except the Gospel ISN'T ABOUT "FORGIVENESS", or "pardon". The Gospel is about CLEANSING / REMOVAL of Sin.

You steal $100 from me, you've SINNED.

If subsequently, I FORGIVE / PARDON your theft, then LEGALLY you no longer "owe me" $100, since I've ripped up the I.O.U. that I held against you, and you're legally FREE.

However the SIN OF THEFT still remains on your account in God's records, and my "forgiveness" (or GOD"S forgiveness) has no effect on that whatsoever.

"Forgiveness" is only a simple act of the will.

Eliminating the existence of the SIN, however, Biblically requires the shedding of BLOOD.

In the OLD Testament, there was continuous BLOOD SACRIFICE in the temple as "sin offerings", however, it was the blood of cattle, and other living things, and according to Heb 10:4 that blood couldn't REMOVE the SIN. It could only hide it it temporarily".

Since it was HUMAN SIN, it required the BLOOD of a PERFECT HUMAN for cleansing. That's where Jesus comes in to the picture as the SAVIOR, who's BLOOD was shed for YOUR sin (not His since He had no SIN).

When WE place the Faith He gifts (Conviction of SIN = God's WORD TO US ROm 10:17) in that perfect SIN OFFERING (Isa 53:10), our sins are cleansed/removed completly, and we're PERFECT before God in Jesus.
 
The simple answer is YES!

First I must say the Jesus Christ is the only way, truth, and life and the only source of grace won by his merits by His passion, death, and atoning propitiatory sacrifice!

Jn 1:16-17
And of his fulness have all we received, and grace for grace.

17 For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ.

We are united to Him sharing His goods, grace etc. therefore;

Matt 5:7
Blessed are the merciful: for they shall obtain mercy.

Luke 7:47
Wherefore I say unto thee, Her sins, which are many, are forgiven; for she loved much: but to whom little is forgiven, the same loveth little.

8 Be not ye therefore like unto them: for your Father knoweth what things ye have need of, before ye ask him.

9 After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name.

10 Thy kingdom come, Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven.

11 Give us this day our daily bread.

12 And forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors.

13 And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil: For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever. Amen.

Matthew 26:41
Watch and pray, that ye enter not into temptation: the spirit indeed is willing, but the flesh is weak.

Matthew 7:7
Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shallbe opened unto you:

1 Peter 4:8
And above all things have fervent charity among yourselves: for charity shall cover the multitude of sins.
Thks
 
The simple answer is YES!

First I must say the Jesus Christ is the only way, truth, and life and the only source of grace won by his merits by His passion, death, and atoning propitiatory sacrifice!

Jn 1:16-17
And of his fulness have all we received, and grace for grace.

17 For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ.

We are united to Him sharing His goods, grace etc. therefore;

Matt 5:7
Blessed are the merciful: for they shall obtain mercy.

Luke 7:47
Wherefore I say unto thee, Her sins, which are many, are forgiven; for she loved much: but to whom little is forgiven, the same loveth little.

8 Be not ye therefore like unto them: for your Father knoweth what things ye have need of, before ye ask him.

9 After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name.

10 Thy kingdom come, Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven.

11 Give us this day our daily bread.

12 And forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors.

13 And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil: For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever. Amen.

Matthew 26:41
Watch and pray, that ye enter not into temptation: the spirit indeed is willing, but the flesh is weak.

Matthew 7:7
Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shallbe opened unto you:

1 Peter 4:8
And above all things have fervent charity among yourselves: for charity shall cover the multitude of sins.
Thks

Fulness of grace have all we received, and grace for grace the complete cost ? No limbo or purgatory?

Is our blessed by the mercy of our invisible head. . sister in the Lord Mary a source of grace?

If we seek after a entity named Mary and knock on her door will she open it and provide ?. What will she provide?

2 Peter 2:1 But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought (full price) them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.

Purgatory . . the wondering doctrine .Where did it come from???

2 Thessalonians 2:9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,

Jesus said to a sign and wonder seeker as a law of the fathers in regard to greatest possible miracle. . . born agin eternal life. The unseen Father lovingly commanding Nicodemus to marvel or wonder not but rather believe empowered to . . as anchors to ones new born again soul
 
Is repentance one of the works of the law/flesh whereby our sins are legally forgiven?

Keiw1 said yes, I say, that's another gospel packaged and wrapped as the gospel of Jesus Christ. That may be the doctrine of the Jehovah Witnesses, but it falls under the curse of God.


The sins of those who were ordained to eternal life are covered freely by grace, through the redemption that is in Jesus Christ.

Consider with me: If all our sins be legally pardoned, then we need not pray for pardon of them ever again, as Matt. 6.

By pardon in Matt. 6, we are to understand the manifestation of pardon, the assurance and enjoyment of pardon in the conscience, the effect is here put for the cause. It must be so understood, because there is no pardon but this now attainable, therefore not to be prayed for. For seeing Christ will die no more, "there remaineth no more sacrifice for sin," Hebrews 10:26. It's in vain for any to pray for the pardon of the remission of that sin; which is not remitted before in Christ, Hebrews 10:18; 2nd Corinthains 5:19.

There IS that which attends the act of sin, which darkens, sads and clouds the soul's peace, (though it ought not so to do) which we are to pray to God to prevent or remove from us~ David, when he was converted back to fellowship did thus pray.

Some will object: Unbelievers are still in their sins, and therefore they are not justified. Answer: The elect are in their sins visibly, until they believe, and declare it by good works. They have sin in them and yet, they are free from sin. They are charged with sin, and yet they are free from all charge, Romans 8:33, and clean from all sin. Yet, he does sin and he cannot sin. This is a mystery to many: They have sin, 1st John 1:8,10; Ezekiel 16:8, they are charged with sin, James 5:17; Galatians 2:11-14. Yet, they are free from sin, Isaiah 53:5,6; 2nd Corinthains 5:21; SoS 4:7; 1st John 4:17. "They cannot sin," 1st John 3:9.

This is a mystery when Christ said, "A little while, and ye shall see me, and a little while, ye shall not see me. They said, What is this that he saith? we cannot tell what it is that he saith," John16:16-18. Shall, and shall not was a contradiction in their understandings: so will what I say be to many.

Some will object and say: Men's sins are not forgiven till they be redeemed from a vain conversation.

Then no man's sins are forgiven though they believe, and so cannot enjoy forgiveness of sin in this life, seeing every act of sin is a branch, and so a part of a vain conversation, and "in many things we sin all." Then David, notwithstanding he was converted and enjoyed the pardon of his sins, Psalms 51:12, yet he was not delivered from a vain conversation, as appeared in the matter of Bathsheba, and Uriah. And, if our justification and remission of sin did depend upon our holywalking, then folks like you do well to teach justification by works.

Some will object: All men are by nature children of wrath, and under the curse till they believe, Ephesians 2:3.

The death of the Law over God's elect grant all the elect are so by nature ONLY, under a state of wrath and curse, and they had perished in it, had not Jesus Christ by his death redeemed them out of that state. And although they were so by nature, yet at the same time they were also sons of grace and love. By nature accursed, by grace in election of grace sure to escape it, and blessed. By wrath, I understand is meant the curse of the Law, the punishment due to sin. By nature I understand the state of nature~ the state and condition of man by reason of Adam's fall, for all men were considered in him, and by his fall he made them all sinners, Romans 5:18. So, all the elect were considered in Christ, ( Ephesians 1:4 ) who by his death, did free all the elect from this fall of sin and death; so as never since Christ's death, none of the elect were under that state of wrath or curse, nor indeed could possible be for these Reasons.1) Because then "Christ redeemed them from under the Law," Galatians 4:4,5. "Thou hast redeemed us by thy blood," Revelation 5:9. "Christ was made under the Law," that we might be taken from under it. "We are the children of the free woman," Galatians 4:26,31. "We are delivered from the Law, wherein we were held:" Rom. 7:1, etc. "Now we know, that whatsoever the Law saith, it saith to them that are under the Law," Rom. 3:19. But we now are "not under the Law," therefore it has nothing to say to us, we "are under grace,"Rom. 6:14.2) Because Christ, by His death, put an end to the Law, the Law was not to last any longer then till Christ came; "The Law was added till the seed should come," Galatians 3:19. "Christ is the end of the Law:" Romans 10:4. It was never in force against any of God's elect since Christ's death. "We are freed from the Law by the body of Christ," Romans 7:4. Christ in"his flesh did abolish the Law of Commandments:" Ephesians 2:15,16; Colossians 2:13,14. "Now we are delivered from the Law," Romans 7:6. "Against such there is no law:" Galatians 5:23. If the Son shall make you as free in your consciences, as the elect are free in Him, you shall see, and say you were free indeed, John 8.3) Because the Law is dead to us, and we to it, "As a woman is freed from the law of her husband if he be dead:" so are we from the law. "Wherefore my brethren, we are become dead to the law by the body of Christ, that we should be married to another, even to him,that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter," Romans 7:1-7. This new husband is better than the old. Welcome Christ, and farewell Law. Now we have nothing to do with the Law, nor the Law with us, "Our old man is crucified with him," Romans 6:6. "He that is dead is freed from sin:" v.7. "We are dead with Christ," v.8.4) Because there is none of Moses' law now in force, to the elect, with curses to be under, no law, no transgression, no curse, no penalty in force now. For when the Law ceased, the curse of the Law ceased also with it. The Law said "Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them," Galatians 3:10

So, if you believe there are certain works a sinner must do in order to have his sins blotted out, then in your repentance make sure you cover all sins: in word, deeds and thoughts and that continually every second of every day of living in this world~btw, that is impossible, and the reason why, is all live in a body of sin and death.
Would you please summarize your position in a single sentence (or two)?

It appears the opening post is attempting a similarity between sins being blotted out and salvation. Is that correct. If not, then..... would you please summarize your position in a single sentence? Thx
 
Is repentance one of the works of the law/flesh whereby our sins are legally forgiven?

Keiw1 said yes, I say, that's another gospel packaged and wrapped as the gospel of Jesus Christ. That may be the doctrine of the Jehovah Witnesses, but it falls under the curse of God.


The sins of those who were ordained to eternal life are covered freely by grace, through the redemption that is in Jesus Christ.

Consider with me: If all our sins be legally pardoned, then we need not pray for pardon of them ever again, as Matt. 6.

By pardon in Matt. 6, we are to understand the manifestation of pardon, the assurance and enjoyment of pardon in the conscience, the effect is here put for the cause. It must be so understood, because there is no pardon but this now attainable, therefore not to be prayed for. For seeing Christ will die no more, "there remaineth no more sacrifice for sin," Hebrews 10:26. It's in vain for any to pray for the pardon of the remission of that sin; which is not remitted before in Christ, Hebrews 10:18; 2nd Corinthains 5:19.

There IS that which attends the act of sin, which darkens, sads and clouds the soul's peace, (though it ought not so to do) which we are to pray to God to prevent or remove from us~ David, when he was converted back to fellowship did thus pray.

Some will object: Unbelievers are still in their sins, and therefore they are not justified. Answer: The elect are in their sins visibly, until they believe, and declare it by good works. They have sin in them and yet, they are free from sin. They are charged with sin, and yet they are free from all charge, Romans 8:33, and clean from all sin. Yet, he does sin and he cannot sin. This is a mystery to many: They have sin, 1st John 1:8,10; Ezekiel 16:8, they are charged with sin, James 5:17; Galatians 2:11-14. Yet, they are free from sin, Isaiah 53:5,6; 2nd Corinthains 5:21; SoS 4:7; 1st John 4:17. "They cannot sin," 1st John 3:9.

This is a mystery when Christ said, "A little while, and ye shall see me, and a little while, ye shall not see me. They said, What is this that he saith? we cannot tell what it is that he saith," John16:16-18. Shall, and shall not was a contradiction in their understandings: so will what I say be to many.

Some will object and say: Men's sins are not forgiven till they be redeemed from a vain conversation.

Then no man's sins are forgiven though they believe, and so cannot enjoy forgiveness of sin in this life, seeing every act of sin is a branch, and so a part of a vain conversation, and "in many things we sin all." Then David, notwithstanding he was converted and enjoyed the pardon of his sins, Psalms 51:12, yet he was not delivered from a vain conversation, as appeared in the matter of Bathsheba, and Uriah. And, if our justification and remission of sin did depend upon our holywalking, then folks like you do well to teach justification by works.

Some will object: All men are by nature children of wrath, and under the curse till they believe, Ephesians 2:3.

The death of the Law over God's elect grant all the elect are so by nature ONLY, under a state of wrath and curse, and they had perished in it, had not Jesus Christ by his death redeemed them out of that state. And although they were so by nature, yet at the same time they were also sons of grace and love. By nature accursed, by grace in election of grace sure to escape it, and blessed. By wrath, I understand is meant the curse of the Law, the punishment due to sin. By nature I understand the state of nature~ the state and condition of man by reason of Adam's fall, for all men were considered in him, and by his fall he made them all sinners, Romans 5:18. So, all the elect were considered in Christ, ( Ephesians 1:4 ) who by his death, did free all the elect from this fall of sin and death; so as never since Christ's death, none of the elect were under that state of wrath or curse, nor indeed could possible be for these Reasons.1) Because then "Christ redeemed them from under the Law," Galatians 4:4,5. "Thou hast redeemed us by thy blood," Revelation 5:9. "Christ was made under the Law," that we might be taken from under it. "We are the children of the free woman," Galatians 4:26,31. "We are delivered from the Law, wherein we were held:" Rom. 7:1, etc. "Now we know, that whatsoever the Law saith, it saith to them that are under the Law," Rom. 3:19. But we now are "not under the Law," therefore it has nothing to say to us, we "are under grace,"Rom. 6:14.2) Because Christ, by His death, put an end to the Law, the Law was not to last any longer then till Christ came; "The Law was added till the seed should come," Galatians 3:19. "Christ is the end of the Law:" Romans 10:4. It was never in force against any of God's elect since Christ's death. "We are freed from the Law by the body of Christ," Romans 7:4. Christ in"his flesh did abolish the Law of Commandments:" Ephesians 2:15,16; Colossians 2:13,14. "Now we are delivered from the Law," Romans 7:6. "Against such there is no law:" Galatians 5:23. If the Son shall make you as free in your consciences, as the elect are free in Him, you shall see, and say you were free indeed, John 8.3) Because the Law is dead to us, and we to it, "As a woman is freed from the law of her husband if he be dead:" so are we from the law. "Wherefore my brethren, we are become dead to the law by the body of Christ, that we should be married to another, even to him,that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter," Romans 7:1-7. This new husband is better than the old. Welcome Christ, and farewell Law. Now we have nothing to do with the Law, nor the Law with us, "Our old man is crucified with him," Romans 6:6. "He that is dead is freed from sin:" v.7. "We are dead with Christ," v.8.4) Because there is none of Moses' law now in force, to the elect, with curses to be under, no law, no transgression, no curse, no penalty in force now. For when the Law ceased, the curse of the Law ceased also with it. The Law said "Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them," Galatians 3:10

So, if you believe there are certain works a sinner must do in order to have his sins blotted out, then in your repentance make sure you cover all sins: in word, deeds and thoughts and that continually every second of every day of living in this world~btw, that is impossible, and the reason why, is all live in a body of sin and death.
Do you consider confessing our sins (to God) to be part of this question? "If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness."
 
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