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Difficult Bible Verses: 1 Corinthians 11:10

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1 Corinthians 11:2-16 — I praise you for remembering me in everything and for holding to the traditions just as I passed them on to you. But I want you to realize that the head of every man is Christ, and the head of the woman is man, and the head of Christ is God. Every man who prays or prophesies with his head covered dishonors his head. But every woman who prays or prophesies with her head uncovered dishonors her head—it is the same as having her head shaved. For if a woman does not cover her head, she might as well have her hair cut off; but if it is a disgrace for a woman to have her hair cut off or her head shaved, then she should cover her head. A man ought not to cover his head, since he is the image and glory of God; but woman is the glory of man. For man did not come from woman, but woman from man; neither was man created for woman, but woman for man. It is for this reason that a woman ought to have authority over her own head, because of the angels. Nevertheless, in the Lord woman is not independent of man, nor is man independent of woman. For as woman came from man, so also man is born of woman. But everything comes from God. Judge for yourselves: Is it proper for a woman to pray to God with her head uncovered? Does not the very nature of things teach you that if a man has long hair, it is a disgrace to him, but that if a woman has long hair, it is her glory? For long hair is given to her as a covering. If anyone wants to be contentious about this, we have no other practice--nor do the churches of God.
I would love to hear some thoughts on what this could possibly mean. I have struggled for years to understand this peculiar clause.

Have any of you encountered a satisfying explanation?
 
1 Corinthians 11:2-16 — I praise you for remembering me in everything and for holding to the traditions just as I passed them on to you. But I want you to realize that the head of every man is Christ, and the head of the woman is man, and the head of Christ is God. Every man who prays or prophesies with his head covered dishonors his head. But every woman who prays or prophesies with her head uncovered dishonors her head—it is the same as having her head shaved. For if a woman does not cover her head, she might as well have her hair cut off; but if it is a disgrace for a woman to have her hair cut off or her head shaved, then she should cover her head. A man ought not to cover his head, since he is the image and glory of God; but woman is the glory of man. For man did not come from woman, but woman from man; neither was man created for woman, but woman for man. It is for this reason that a woman ought to have authority over her own head, because of the angels. Nevertheless, in the Lord woman is not independent of man, nor is man independent of woman. For as woman came from man, so also man is born of woman. But everything comes from God. Judge for yourselves: Is it proper for a woman to pray to God with her head uncovered? Does not the very nature of things teach you that if a man has long hair, it is a disgrace to him, but that if a woman has long hair, it is her glory? For long hair is given to her as a covering. If anyone wants to be contentious about this, we have no other practice--nor do the churches of God.​
I would love to hear some thoughts on what this could possibly mean. I have struggled for years to understand this peculiar clause.

Have any of you encountered a satisfying explanation?
I have to confess that the use of some concerning Genesis 6 does have a certain appeal here.

But I maintain only that "it may seem so".

EDIT: Oh, and to nip bad logic in the bud, lest someone jump in here with cat-calls: The fact that I don't have a good explanation to counter the Genesis 6 use, doesn't mean that the Genesis 6 use is right.
 
1 Corinthians 11:2-16 — I praise you for remembering me in everything and for holding to the traditions just as I passed them on to you. But I want you to realize that the head of every man is Christ, and the head of the woman is man, and the head of Christ is God. Every man who prays or prophesies with his head covered dishonors his head. But every woman who prays or prophesies with her head uncovered dishonors her head—it is the same as having her head shaved. For if a woman does not cover her head, she might as well have her hair cut off; but if it is a disgrace for a woman to have her hair cut off or her head shaved, then she should cover her head. A man ought not to cover his head, since he is the image and glory of God; but woman is the glory of man. For man did not come from woman, but woman from man; neither was man created for woman, but woman for man. It is for this reason that a woman ought to have authority over her own head, because of the angels. Nevertheless, in the Lord woman is not independent of man, nor is man independent of woman. For as woman came from man, so also man is born of woman. But everything comes from God. Judge for yourselves: Is it proper for a woman to pray to God with her head uncovered? Does not the very nature of things teach you that if a man has long hair, it is a disgrace to him, but that if a woman has long hair, it is her glory? For long hair is given to her as a covering. If anyone wants to be contentious about this, we have no other practice--nor do the churches of God.​
I would love to hear some thoughts on what this could possibly mean. I have struggled for years to understand this peculiar clause.

Have any of you encountered a satisfying explanation?
It is a tough one for sure.

I have read several thoughts and interpretations on verse 10 within the context of 2-16.

Commentators are a mixed bag and most are literal interpretations.

Macarthur seems to clarify the verse pretty well.

In verse 10 Paul returns to the application of the principle. Therefore the woman ought to have a symbol of authority on her head, because of the angels. The cultural use of a head covering represents the divine and universal principle of a woman’s subordination to man’s authority. Symbol of authority is one word (exousia) in the Greek and means “rightful power,” or “authority.” The covered head was the woman’s authority or right to pray and worship, since it demonstrated her submissiveness. Symbol is implied because of the obvious reference here to the head covering mentioned in verses 4–7. In that culture, a woman was to wear such a symbol as an indication of her subordinate role to man.

The basic meaning of angels is “messenger.” Paul here is speaking of the holy angels, God’s ministering angels, whose supreme characteristic is total and immediate obedience to God. Throughout Scripture God’s holy angels are shown as creatures of great power, but it is always derived power and submissive power. Satan and the other angels who followed him were thrown out of heaven for the very reason that they sought to use their power to their own selfish purposes and glory rather than to God’s. The holy angels, on the other hand, are the supreme example of proper creaturely subordination. Hebrews 1:4–2:18 focuses on Christ’s superiority to the angels and their willing subservience to Him.

These messengers are God’s protectors of His church, over which they stand perpetual guard. It is proper for a woman to cover her head as a sign of subordination because of the angels, in order that these most submissive of all creatures will not be offended by nonsubmissiveness. Furthermore, the angels were present at creation (Job 38:7) to be witnesses of God’s unique design for man and woman, and would be offended at any violation of that order. The idea of caring about the response and attitude of angels is also seen in Ephesians 3:9–10 and Matthew 18:10. The Midrash taught that angels are the guardians of the created order.<sup>[1]</sup>



John F. MacArthur Jr., 1 Corinthians, MacArthur New Testament Commentary
 
10. For this reason the woman ought to have authority on her head because of the angels.

a. “For this reason.” Paul continues his discourse, tightly connecting this verse to the preceding ones (vv. 7–9). The conjunction for (v. 8) explains verse 7, and the word indeed (v. 9) shows that verse 9 gives additional support to verse 8. The conjunction in verse 10 serves to bind the verse to the larger argument.

b. “The woman ought to have authority on her head because of the angels.” The translation of this part of the text is problematic, as is evident from these representative versions:

“a sign of authority” (NIV)

“the sign of her authority” (REB)

“a sign of submission” (NAB)

“a covering over her head to show that she is under her husband’s authority” (GNB).

It is obvious that translators are forced to interpret the Greek text. The wording in the original is terse and obscure. At the head of this section, I present a literal translation, which I readily admit lacks elegance and clarity. My version omits the phrase a sign of and fails to indicate whether the expression authority means the woman’s authority or that of her husband.

When we try to clarify this passage, we must consider the preceding and the succeeding context. Thus far Paul has stated the principle that man is the head of woman just as Christ is the head of man and God the head of Christ. He has given directions on how men and women should conduct themselves while praying or prophesying. Paul has told women to cover their heads so they do not shame their “heads,” namely, their husbands. And he has defended his words by appealing to the creation account in the first two chapters of Genesis. Now Paul concludes this segment of his discussion by saying that “the woman ought to have authority on her head because of the angels.”

This verse has been the subject of study by numerous scholars, yet every writer has to admit that his or her explanation of the text displays weaknesses. In spite of all the suggestions that have been offered, the text remains enigmatic and fails to communicate. These are some of the proposed interpretations:

1. When a woman in public worship prays or prophesies, she displays the new freedom she has in Christ. The woman derives her authority from God, and with her headcovering she is able to demonstrate that power.35 The weakness of this suggestion is that a discussion on equality fits Galatians 3:28 but in the current passage Paul says nothing about freedom.

2. “A sign of authority.” Many translations have enhanced the reading by adding the phrase sign of or simply veil.36 Numerous commentators assert that the word authority relates not to the authority of the woman but to that of her husband. The context speaks of the husband being the wife’s head, and this interpretation leaves the impression that the term authority is equivalent to submission. In Greek, however, the term exousia never has an objective or a passive sense, that is, being under someone else’s authority. It always has a subjective or an active sense relating to one’s own authority. And last, with this interpretation the Greek preposition epi, which means “on,” now has the meaning over. The husband has authority over his wife. Paul has said as much earlier (v. 3), but he is not saying this in verse 10.

3. The expression authority has been linked to the creation account of Adam and Eve in Genesis 1:26–28. This passage states that both male and female received the mandate to rule (have authority over) the fish, birds, and every living creature on this earth.37 This ingenious explanation makes the woman an active participant with man in exercising authority, but the text itself gives the explanation insufficient support.

4. While praying or prophesying in a worship service, a woman receives spiritual authority. Instead, she ought to accept the position assigned to her since creation, to recognize her husband as head. She is unable to pray in the Spirit when rebelling “against the order of creation hallowed by God’s Spirit.”38 Here is a plausible explanation that does justice to the concept authority. Nonetheless, this concept must relate to the last phrase in the text, “because of the angels.”

5. Could it be that Paul with his rabbinical training is asking women to be covered with a veil because of the angels? With the evidence gleaned from Qumran, we know that an unveiled woman in a sacred assembly “is like a bodily defect which should be excluded.”39 The reason for this exclusion is that holy angels who are present at worship services are offended by defects. This approach may shed some light on the reference to the angels, but it does nothing for interpreting the meaning of “authority.”

All these suggestions are helpful in understanding aspects of the problems we encounter in verse 10, yet all show weaknesses. Scholars must conclude that a satisfactory explanation is not available. In all humility, I confess that I really do not know what Paul intended to say in this verse.

c. “Because of the angels.” This short verse has two causal expressions: the first one is translated “for this reason” and the second one “because.” Some translators combine these two causal expressions with the word and or also. Whether we supply a connection or follow the Greek word order, the fact remains that scholars simply do not know what the reference to angels means. In I Corinthians, the word angels occurs four times (4:9; 6:3; 11:10; 13:1). But a study of this word in the context of these passages fails to give us an idea what Paul has in mind. Interpreters must admit that, all the research aside, they have no acceptable explanation for this particular clause.

Although translators encounter a mystery in verse 10, we nevertheless must see it in the light of the preceding and succeeding context. Paul writes that “man was not created for the sake of the woman but woman for the sake of the man” (v. 9) and “for this reason, the woman ought to have authority on her head because of the angels” (v. 10). In verse 11, which begins with the adversative however, Paul changes the discussion to emphasize an important point: “In the Lord neither is woman [anything] apart from man, nor man [anything] apart from woman.” This verse is a continuation of verse 9, where Paul speaks of the creation account. In verse 11, Paul implies spiritual recreation and says that man and woman depend on each other “in the Lord.” Between these two verses, Paul places the enigmatic words of verse 10 that ascribe authority to a woman. She may pray or prophesy provided her head is covered (vv. 5, 13). Thus, a woman possesses authority as she shows respect in the presence of God’s angels.40<sup>[1]</sup>



NIV New International Version

REB Revised English Bible

NAB New American Bible

GNB Good News Bible

35 Consult Morna D. Hooker, “Authority on Her Head: An Examination of I Cor. XI.10,” NTS 10 (1963–64): 415–16.

36 SB, vol. 3, pp. 435–36; Werner Foerster, TDNT, vol. 2, pp. 573–74.

37 Refer to Hurley, “Veils,” pp. 211–12.

38 Neuer, Man and Woman, p. 115.

39 Joseph A. Fitzmyer, “A Feature of Qumran Angelology and the Angels of I Cor. XI.10,” NTS 4 (1957–58): 48–58.

40 Compare Annie Jaubert, “Le Voile des Femmes (I Cor. XI.2–16),” NTS 18 (1971–72): 419–30.

<sup>[1]</sup> Simon J. Kistemaker and William Hendriksen, Exposition of the First Epistle to the Corinthians, vol. 18, New Testament Commentary
 
Gods angels are the pastors and elders of the church, in my understanding. They are God's messengers.

Having authority over her own head here might actually be talking about authority over her own faith? She has to take responsibility for her beliefs? Maybe.

Paul's entire argument hinges on creation itself, so it's possible.
 
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God's angels are the pastors and elders of the church, in my understanding. They are God's messengers.

This is an interesting take. Could you flesh this out some more?
 
This is an interesting take. Could you flesh this out some more?

If you like I can work on getting some Bible verses together but it really comes from my take on a variety of passages. It seems to me angels, see for instance all the letters to the churches: "To the angel of the church in Ephesus write" (Revelation 2:1) among other instances where angels refer to actual pastors and/or people God has given annointing to bring a message from Him to people.

Certainly there's angelic beings, but angels are just people too who have God's message, from my reading of Scripture.

Therefore, anything to do with the church where angels are referred to, I do use the interpretation we are talking about the elders and pastors of the church and considerations for them specifically.
 
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Yes, please. Thank you.

Be longer than one would imagine. There's church today.

(We went from ice and snow to melt and flash flooding and landslides recently but they have fixed our road, and there's no further excuse to stay home ..)
 
Elaborate?
Those claiming 'adam'antly (see what I did there?) that Genesis 6 is about angels mating with human women, producing Giants which were called Nephilim.

I think their reasoning is that Corinthians 11's, "It is for this reason that a woman ought to have authority over her own head, because of the angels" is a reference to the fact that that a woman's beauty should not be visible to the angels because in Genesis 6 the supposed angels were drawn to the beauty of the earth's women.
 
Those claiming 'adam'antly (see what I did there?) that Genesis 6 is about angels mating with human women, producing Giants which were called Nephilim.

I think their reasoning is that Corinthians 11's, "It is for this reason that a woman ought to have authority over her own head, because of the angels" is a reference to the fact that that a woman's beauty should not be visible to the angels because in Genesis 6 the supposed angels were drawn to the beauty of the earth's women.



I hold the sons of God were not Angels, but rather God's people who were marrying outside the faith - both views given here.
 

I hold the sons of God were not Angels, but rather God's people who were marrying outside the faith - both views given here.
I tend to agree with you. But I can't prove it. I distrust the other because of several reasons, mainly because it is a Biblical outlier—it lacks any supporting reference to angel's sexuality or to the event itself— but also because it is flashy, fantastical, appealing to the immature and fleshly nature—I don't trust it.
 
I tend to agree with you. But I can't prove it. I distrust the other because of several reasons, mainly because it is a Biblical outlier—it lacks any supporting reference to angel's sexuality or to the event itself— but also because it is flashy, fantastical, appealing to the immature and fleshly nature—I don't trust it.

Well and that's the whole thing, sex and the desire thereof is clearly a human-only thing, according to Scriptures.

You kinda have to go piece by piece through Scripture, but I really really don't think that particular reference is in reference to angels, but to the faithful intermarrying.

To support the theory is that later Scriptures were clear about a prohibition of intermarrying and even continues in the new covenant.

There's something else though, the Holy Spirit makes people different. Recognizably so. Sometimes I wonder if that's why Scripture uses language sometimes the way it does.
 
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I listen to sermons on my half hour drive to work on a daily.

Been on Martyn Lloyd Jones and his Systematic Theology series Great Biblical Doctrines and started in on the theology of Good angels.

The following is a quote from the sermon on 1 Corinthians 11:10.

He explained it in a way that I am in agreeance.

The quote is taken from his book.

Then the next thing we are told about them is this—let us bear it in mind always—they not only behold the face of God, they are not only looking into salvation, but they are looking at us. In 1 Corinthians 11:10 Paul uses these words: ‘For this cause ought the woman to have power on her head because of the angels.’ You remember that Paul is considering the question of women praying without their heads being covered. Apparently some of the women in the church at Corinth were taking part in prayer with their heads uncovered, and the apostle tells them that that is quite wrong. A woman should have her head covered to show that she is under the authority of the man; and in addition to that, Paul says, she should be covered because of the presence of the angels. In other words, the Scripture teaches that when Christians meet together, and when they gather together in prayer, then the angels of God are present, and the women are to be covered when they take part in public prayer because of the presence of the angels. It is a tremendous and remarkable thing. Let us bear it in-mind.

David Martyn Lloyd-Jones, God the Father, God the Son 110.
 
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I listen to sermons daily on my half hour drive to work on a daily.

Been on Martyn Lloyd Jones and his Systematic Theology series Great Biblical Doctrines and started in on the theology of Good angels.

The following is a quote from the sermon on 1 Corinthians 11:10.

He explained it in a way that I am in agreeance.

The quote is taken from his book.

Then the next thing we are told about them is this—let us bear it in mind always—they not only behold the face of God, they are not only looking into salvation, but they are looking at us. In 1 Corinthians 11:10 Paul uses these words: ‘For this cause ought the woman to have power on her head because of the angels.’ You remember that Paul is considering the question of women praying without their heads being covered. Apparently some of the women in the church at Corinth were taking part in prayer with their heads uncovered, and the apostle tells them that that is quite wrong. A woman should have her head covered to show that she is under the authority of the man; and in addition to that, Paul says, she should be covered because of the presence of the angels. In other words, the Scripture teaches that when Christians meet together, and when they gather together in prayer, then the angels of God are present, and the women are to be covered when they take part in public prayer because of the presence of the angels. It is a tremendous and remarkable thing. Let us bear it in-mind.

David Martyn Lloyd-Jones, God the Father, God the Son 110.
Wow! I have heard that before and had forgotten it! Thanks!
 
1 Corinthians 11:2-16 — I praise you for remembering me in everything and for holding to the traditions just as I passed them on to you. But I want you to realize that the head of every man is Christ, and the head of the woman is man, and the head of Christ is God. Every man who prays or prophesies with his head covered dishonors his head. But every woman who prays or prophesies with her head uncovered dishonors her head—it is the same as having her head shaved. For if a woman does not cover her head, she might as well have her hair cut off; but if it is a disgrace for a woman to have her hair cut off or her head shaved, then she should cover her head. A man ought not to cover his head, since he is the image and glory of God; but woman is the glory of man. For man did not come from woman, but woman from man; neither was man created for woman, but woman for man. It is for this reason that a woman ought to have authority over her own head, because of the angels. Nevertheless, in the Lord woman is not independent of man, nor is man independent of woman. For as woman came from man, so also man is born of woman. But everything comes from God. Judge for yourselves: Is it proper for a woman to pray to God with her head uncovered? Does not the very nature of things teach you that if a man has long hair, it is a disgrace to him, but that if a woman has long hair, it is her glory? For long hair is given to her as a covering. If anyone wants to be contentious about this, we have no other practice--nor do the churches of God.​
I would love to hear some thoughts on what this could possibly mean. I have struggled for years to understand this peculiar clause.

Have any of you encountered a satisfying explanation?
I would offer.

It is one of the few I keep on back burner. Mysteries as a parable. Comparing the things seen to the unseen eternal.

All of the Old Testament ceremonial laws as shadows of the suffering of Christ beforehand disappeared. (1 Peter1:10-11)

The time of reformation restoration had come.(Hebrew 9) Christ's Holy Spirit reigning in and with believers. (no visible King) pagan foundation

Destroying all kingdoms of men. The foundation of Paganism (out of sight out of mind) God calls fools.

There were no female prophets or children prophets during that time period of Kings a pagan foundation. .

The law of the fathers' (oral traditions). They restricted participation, a Hebrew Men only club. A 15-foot-high wall that separated the Hebrew women from Hebrew men, and another wall separated the gentile from the Jew.

Establishing a new ceremonial shadow (1 Corinthian 11) that looks ahead to the new heaven and earth. The consummation of the bride the wedding supper. (Bread and wine)

A new ordinance that included men and woman and children from all the nations. Promised in Joel

.Acts 2:15-17;For these are not drunken, as ye suppose, seeing it is but the third hour of the day.; But this is that which was spoken by the prophet Joel; And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh:(nations) and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams:

A Gospel explosion. Walls fell relatives and friends could all worship together as one bride. Destroying the abomination of desolation (Kings in Isreal)

The new ceremonial law introducing Christ not seen as the invisible head.

In order to demonstrate Christ used men to represent the one invisible head Christ. Man must not cover their head of hair. Hair represents the unseen glory. Hair is used to hide glory. Like in the vail Exodus 26

Exodus 26:7And thou shalt make curtains of goats' hair to be a covering upon the tabernacle: eleven curtains shalt thou make.

Goats' hair pitch black the night again to show hiding

Adam with no glory of his own is covered by the wife. The wife not left without a glory to represent the unseen glory is her hair. It must be covered so that the two glories men and women would represent his eternal glory alone. Only his glory is in view. Not glorying in the flesh of mankind.

1 Corinthians 1:11-10 Be ye followers of me, even as I also am of Christ. Now I praise you, brethren, that ye remember me in all things, and keep the ordinances, as I delivered them to you.;But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.Every man praying or prophesying, having his head covered, dishonoureth his head.But every woman that prayeth or prophesieth with her head uncovered dishonoureth her head: for that is even all one as if she were shaven.For if the woman be not covered, let her also be shorn: but if it be a shame for a woman to be shorn or shaven, let her be covered.For a man indeed ought not to cover his head, forasmuch as he is the image and glory of God: but the woman is the glory of the man.;For the man is not of the woman: but the woman of the man.;Neither was the man created for the woman; but the woman for the man.;For this cause ought the woman to have power on her head because of the angels. (apostle)

Nazarene vow Like Samson, Paul shaved off his hair when finished with the vow

Acts 18:18 And Paul after this tarried there yet a good while, and then took his leave of the brethren, and sailed thence into Syria, and with him Priscilla and Aquila; having shorn his head in Cenchrea: for he had a vow.

Interestingly, Both hair and nails "beauty treatments" are used as a covering. When a gentile would enter her new born again relationship . . . .hair shaved, nail pared was necessary to point to the unseen glory of God.

Deuteronomy 21:12 Then thou shalt bring her home to thine house, and she shall shave her head, and pare her nails;

In the book of Revelation Satan the scorpion coming with full battle equipment false prophecy. Coming with the un covered hair of a women on the face of a men . Giving glory to the flesh.

Revelation 9:7-97And the shapes of the locusts were like unto horses prepared unto battle; and on their heads were as it were crowns like gold, and their faces were as the faces of men.;And they had hair as the hair of women, and their teeth were as the teeth of lions.And they had breastplates, as it were breastplates of iron; and the sound of their wings was as the sound of chariots of many horses running to battle.

The same order set up in the garden before the fall. Adam to represent Christ not seen Eve to represent the bride seen .
 
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