Are Believers Saved Or Are Believers Not Saved Yet?

[grace2]

It is you who disrespect Jesus' word,

Did He say "My Father is greater than I?

Yes, He did.

dont lie.

 

[David1701]

Did He say "My Father is greater than I?

Yes, He did.

dont lie.

I've already explained that. Why did you ignore the biblical explanation?

 

[grace2]

The Bible clearly states

Jesus clearly states His Father is greater than He.

Dont lie.

 

[grace2]

I've already explained that. Why did you ignore the biblical explanation?

It is your reading, not biblical.

dont lie.

 

[David1701]

Jesus clearly states His Father is greater than He.

Dont lie.

You are going on "ignore".

 

[grace2]

You are going on "ignore".

If you spread a lie about God and Jesus, it needs to be addressed.

 

[jeremiah1five]

Your claim:

God the Father, God the Son, God the Holy Spirit.

Those are three Gods.

Yup.
Each Person is God and as the Shema says:

4 Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD: Deut. 6:4.

For those who have been enlightened by the Holy Spirit it is also declared in the New Covenant Scripture;

"Lord Jesus Christ."

Lord = Father
Jesus = Son
Christ = Holy Spirit.

 

[grace2]

Yup.
Each Person is God and as the Shema says:

here you go again,

Who is Shema?

You come up with so many unfamiliar with the Bible.

So pagan and worldly.

 

[jeremiah1five]

here you go again,

Who is Shema?

You come up with so many unfamiliar with the Bible.

So pagan and worldly.

Shema. He lives next door to the gospel.

 

[grace2]

Shema. He lives next door to the gospel.

bye.

 

[Eleanor]

Unbelief is the only debunking of Jn 1:1, 14: "the Word was God. . .the Word became flesh and dwelt among us."

 

[Eleanor]

What did the word look like .

It looked like the Word who became flesh (Jn 1:14) and dwelt among us, Jesus of Nazareth.

Logos in Greek philosophy was the First Cause, the great Intelligence and Reason behind the Universe.
John opens his gospel with the astounding declaration that the recently despised and crucified man, Jesus of Nazareth,
is the eternal Logos, source of all wisdom and power, who became flesh to reveal God to us.

 

[Eleanor]

It is you who disrespect Jesus' word, since he made it very clear that he is God and man, on several occasions. Even the Pharisees realised that, in saying that he is the Son of God, he was claiming to be God. Thomas also witnessed to the fact that Jesus is God, when exclaimed, "My Lord and my God.", to Jesus.

Not to mention that both the Son came forth out from within the Father (Jn 8:2, 16;27, 28, 17:8), as did the Holy Spirit (Jn 15:26).

Any living being generated from (coming out from within) another living being is of the same nature as that being from which it came.
Jesus and the Holy Spirit are God, having come forth out from within God the Father.

 

[Arial]

Not to mention that both the Son came forth out from within the Father (Jn 8:2, 16;27, 28, 17:8), as did the Holy Spirit (Jn 15:26).

Any living being generated from (coming out from within) another living being is of the same nature as that being from which it came.
Jesus and the Holy Spirit are God, having come forth out from within God the Father.

And just as a child is of the same nature as the father. And the same nature as the mother.

Oh look! We have Jesus with two different and distinct natures. Exactly what the Trinity doctrine teaches.

 

[Eleanor]

Not to mention that both the Son came forth out from within the Father (Jn 8:2, 16;27, 28, 17:8), as did the Holy Spirit (Jn 15:26).

Any living being generated from (coming out from within) another living being is of the same nature as that being from which it came.
Jesus and the Holy Spirit are God, having come forth out from within God the Father.

That should be Jn 8:42.

 

[David1701]

Not to mention that both the Son came forth out from within the Father (Jn 8:2, 16;27, 28, 17:8), as did the Holy Spirit (Jn 15:26).

Any living being generated from (coming out from within) another living being is of the same nature as that being from which it came.
Jesus and the Holy Spirit are God, having come forth out from within God the Father.

It's not "out from within" the Father (which would imply that God the Son had a beginning), but out from beside the Father; however, they are certainly of the same nature.

 

[grace2]

And just as a child is of the same nature as the father. And the same nature as the mother.

Oh look! We have Jesus with two different and distinct natures. Exactly what the Trinity doctrine teaches.

Why don't you trust Jesus' instructions and worship the Roman Empire god?

 

[Arial]

Why don't you trust Jesus' instructions and worship the Roman Empire god?

Is that what Jesus tells us to do? Jesus Himself is the only God I will ever worship, the second person of the Trinity. So when I worship the one true God, I worship all of Him. Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.

Why don't you? Why do you tell Him who He is instead of letting Him tell you? You have a man centered religion.

 

[grace2]

Is that what Jesus tells us to do? Jesus Himself is the only God I will ever worship, the second person of the Trinity. So when I worship the one true God, I worship all of Him. Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.

Jesus says He is the Son of God and His Father is His God.

Why cannot hear these simple statements?

Worshipping a false god will not save you.

You are worshipping a pagan god.

Not any of His faithful ones know your pagan god.

 

[Mr GLee]

It looked like the Word who became flesh (Jn 1:14) and dwelt among us, Jesus of Nazareth.

Logos in Greek philosophy was the First Cause, the great Intelligence and Reason behind the Universe.
John opens his gospel with the astounding declaration that the recently despised and crucified man, Jesus of Nazareth,
is the eternal Logos, source of all wisdom and power, who became flesh to reveal God to us.

Yes the word ."Let there be flesh" as a creation seen and it was God not seen alone good

He dwelt in dying flesh signified as sinful. demonstrated the unseen work of eternal God who is not a man creature .

Literal flesh was needed to do or demonstrate what the invisible Holy Spirit of Christ the husband alone could do. . the one good witness

.The law of faith . .Christ's labor of love

Why promote the wrath of God (Roman 1)?