An invisible or secret coming.

[Carbon]

Considering an invisible or secret coming, I do not believe the Bible knows anything of it. I challenge any pre-millennial to show any proof for it.

Scripture does teach, however, Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen. Rev 1:7.

 

[makesends]

I neither am, nor am not, pre-mil (Nor A-mil). But I grew up pre-mil, pre-trib, and imminent return. Yet, to my memory, I never heard of any invisible or secret coming. Can you lay out the logic the proponents use?

 

[Carbon]

In case someone hasn't heard of this, I copied this from Google; it is sufficient for a quick explanation to start.

The premillennial "invisible" or "secret" coming, widely known as the rapture, is a doctrine that Christ will return secretly to take followers to heaven, leaving others behind for a severe Tribulation. This event is typically seen by dispensationalists as preceding the Millennium (literal 1,000-year reign) and differing from the final, visible Second Coming.

 

[Carbon]

I neither am, nor am not, pre-mil (Nor A-mil). But I grew up pre-mil, pre-trib, and imminent return. Yet, to my memory, I never heard of any invisible or secret coming. Can you lay out the logic the proponents use?

I'll gather more info.

But keep in mind, considering the pre-trib rapture, no one sees Jesus, Christians just disappear, right?

 

[makesends]

I'll gather more info.

But keep in mind, considering the pre-trib rapture, no one sees Jesus, Christians just disappear, right?

I never thought of it that way, back when I was pre-trib. I thought everyone sees him, 'in the clouds'. The dead ploof-ing out of the dirt and the alive in him rising up through the air, and probably naked. The disciples watched him ascend, and were told he would return in the same way.

 

[JesusFan]

Considering an invisible or secret coming, I do not believe the Bible knows anything of it. I challenge any pre-millennial to show any proof for it.

Scripture does teach, however, Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen. Rev 1:7.

And that leads right into the millinium Kingdom Rule

 

[Carbon]

And that leads right into the millinium Kingdom Rule

What are you saying? You agree with an invisible secret coming?