1689 Baptist Confession of Faith

[Carbon]

https://1689londonbaptistconfession.com/
All Chapters

Preface. To the Judicious and Impartial Reader

Chapter 1. The Holy Scriptures

Chapter 2. God and the Holy Trinity

Chapter 3. God's Decree

Chapter 4. Creation

Chapter 5. Divine Providence

Chapter 6. The Fall of Man, Sin, and Sin's Punishment

Chapter 7. God's Covenant

Chapter 8. Christ the Mediator

Chapter 9. Free Will

Chapter 10. Effectual Calling

Chapter 11. Justification

Chapter 12. Adoption

Chapter 13. Sanctification

Chapter 14. Saving Faith

Chapter 15. Repentance to Life and Salvation

Chapter 16. Good Works

Chapter 17. The Perseverance of the Saints

Chapter 18. The Assurance of Grace and Salvation

Chapter 19. The Law of God

Chapter 20. The Gospel and the Extent of Its Grace

Chapter 21. Christian Liberty and Liberty of Conscience

Chapter 22. Religious Worship and the Sabbath Day

Chapter 23. Lawful Oaths and Vows

Chapter 24. Civil Government

Chapter 25. Marriage

Chapter 26. The Church

Chapter 27. The Communion of Saints

Chapter 28. Of Baptism and the Lord's Supper

Chapter 29. Baptism

Chapter 30. The Lord's Supper

Chapter 31. The State of Man after Death and the Resurrection of the Dead

Chapter 32. The Last Judgment

 

[Reformedguy]

https://1689londonbaptistconfession.com/
All Chapters

Preface. To the Judicious and Impartial Reader

Chapter 1. The Holy Scriptures

Chapter 2. God and the Holy Trinity

Chapter 3. God's Decree

Chapter 4. Creation

Chapter 5. Divine Providence

Chapter 6. The Fall of Man, Sin, and Sin's Punishment

Chapter 7. God's Covenant

Chapter 8. Christ the Mediator

Chapter 9. Free Will

Chapter 10. Effectual Calling

Chapter 11. Justification

Chapter 12. Adoption

Chapter 13. Sanctification

Chapter 14. Saving Faith

Chapter 15. Repentance to Life and Salvation

Chapter 16. Good Works

Chapter 17. The Perseverance of the Saints

Chapter 18. The Assurance of Grace and Salvation

Chapter 19. The Law of God

Chapter 20. The Gospel and the Extent of Its Grace

Chapter 21. Christian Liberty and Liberty of Conscience

Chapter 22. Religious Worship and the Sabbath Day

Chapter 23. Lawful Oaths and Vows

Chapter 24. Civil Government

Chapter 25. Marriage

Chapter 26. The Church

Chapter 27. The Communion of Saints

Chapter 28. Of Baptism and the Lord's Supper

Chapter 29. Baptism

Chapter 30. The Lord's Supper

Chapter 31. The State of Man after Death and the Resurrection of the Dead

Chapter 32. The Last Judgment

I prefer the WCF.

 

[Carbon]

I prefer the WCF.

Same here

 

[Reformedguy]

Same here

They are pretty much identical. Baptism being the primary difference.

 

[makesends]

They are pretty much identical. Baptism being the primary difference.

The sections on Free Will: I find the same objection to both on the wording, and apparently the notion, that man is merely "enabled to will and to do that which is spiritually good". To my mind, Philippians 2:13 ("For it is God who works in you, both to will and to do, according to his good pleasure.") speaks of direct causation —not merely enabling us to spontaneously choose of his good nature and passions to do according to God's purposes. No creature is strictly spontaneous.

One of my favorite points in arguing against the Arminian notion of Freewill, uses this very point, and adds to it that it is also illogical, that man can
do anything uncaused. I have also noticed that in less vehement moments, the Arminian doesn't object to the notion that this or that circumstance, upbringing, geography —whatever— causes one to choose as he does; but suddenly, somehow, when the notion of God causing all those things is brought to bear, they scream, "Violence!".

In fact, the WCF under the section on God's decree, says that God did establish, rather than violate, the will. To me that is causal —not merely an enabling.